2024/25 Abdoulaye Doucoure

[Ged G]

The summer we signed Doucoure also saw Brighton sign Caicedo, Palace sign Eze and West Ham sign Soucek.

And who cares what we can keep. We have to be able to sell and replace. That’s just the reality of modern football.

But we've been in a mess

 

[TheBigIguana]

Soucek would have flopped here, or at least wouldn't have been what we needed. We were crying out for legs in midfield. Tidy player but we badly needed more mobility in that area.

I don’t particularly rate him either tbf, but he’s at least a footballer.

It’s just awful recruitment with Doucoure. He should’ve been sold years ago. Everton aren’t winning anything so what we need to do that just doesn’t matter to me anymore. I want to watch players that are fun to watch and he's the opposite. I can't think of someone who I want to see play less.

 

[John from Bootle]

I don’t particularly rate him either tbf, but he’s at least a footballer.

It’s just awful recruitment with Doucoure. He should’ve been sold years ago. Everton aren’t winning anything so what we need to do that just doesn’t matter to me anymore. I want to watch players that are fun to watch and he's the opposite. I can't think of someone who I want to see play less.

We actually could have had Caicedo. We really have been a basket case. All the crap signings we've just ploughed ahead with, yet we seen our arse over Caicedo, Dumfries and Gabriel.

I don't mind Doucoure. He has limitations, but he has brought attributes that none of the others in midfield have or have had. It's probably why we struggle so much without him, not because he's amazing.

 

[TheBigIguana]

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We actually could have had Caicedo. We really have been a basket case. All the crap signings we've just ploughed ahead with, yet we seen our arse over Caicedo, Dumfries and Gabriel.

I don't mind Doucoure. He has limitations, but he has brought attributes that none of the others in midfield have or have had. It's probably why we struggle so much without him, not because he's amazing.

We don't have another player, and ideally a better one, like him because we still have him. We don't have the resources to have redundant players.

The crap signings are because the process is always terrible. I know people dislike Thelwell generally but I would say that the process is at least better now. He's not spending on players over 25. He's taking shots on talented players who have lost value for reasons that might not be just being crap (Ndiaye for example). I genuinely think the days of a Doucoure are behind us. I'd like to have a manager who matches what we're doing on the recruitment front.

 

[John from Bootle]

We don't have another player, and ideally a better one, like him because we still have him. We don't have the resources to have redundant players.

Well yeah, but that's not his fault. He puts the required effort in and he has a part to play here for now, so for that reason, I think he deserves to be appreciated, or at least not scapegoated.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Well yeah, but that's not his fault. He puts the required effort in and he has a part to play here for now, so for that reason, I think he deserves to be appreciated, or at least not scapegoated.

I'm not scapegoating him. The issue is the manager. But a better manager would never put such a deficient player on the pitch.

 

[John from Bootle]

I'm not scapegoating him. The issue is the manager. But a better manager would never put such a deficient player on the pitch.

But you've just agreed we don't have another player like him. From a deep role maybe Tim or Garner can replace him (both injured) and today it was ultimately a choice between him or Harrison for the 10 role. I don't think Dyche trusts Lindstrom there.

 

[NathDogg]

No wonder the football terrorist Dyche loves this abysmal footballer.

 

[DualityNSNO]

I'm not scapegoating him. The issue is the manager. But a better manager would never put such a deficient player on the pitch.

Carlo did - as a water carrier just to retrieve the ball using his great athleticism and windmill limbs and lay it off to someone who can actually pass.

 

[TheBigIguana]

But you've just agreed we don't have another player like him. From a deep role maybe Tim or Garner can replace him (both injured) and today it was ultimately a choice between him or Harrison for the 10 role. I don't think Dyche trusts Lindstrom there.

You don't have to have a player like him.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Carlo did - as a water carrier just to retrieve the ball using his great athleticism and windmill limbs and lay it off to someone who can actually pass.

He was low key crap at it though which is why he can't actually fulfill that role in a lesser team.

Obligatory Carlo was a crap manager for us shout. Can't get a tune out of Mbappe currently.

 

[edwardcrompton]

But you've just agreed we don't have another player like him. From a deep role maybe Tim or Garner can replace him (both injured) and today it was ultimately a choice between him or Harrison for the 10 role. I don't think Dyche trusts Lindstrom there.

I want Simeone as EFC number one...jog on rs

 

[John from Bootle]

You don't have to have a player like him.

I'm not convinced that Gana and Mangala have the legs as a pair. I think ideally Dyche picks Gana and Doucoure. Tim and Garner will be welcomed back and hopefully offer us alternatives.

Today was a different story obviously, with no McNeil either.

 

[John from Bootle]

I want Simeone as EFC number one...jog on rs

Okay mate.

 

[TheBigIguana]

I'm not convinced that Gana and Mangala have the legs as a pair. I think ideally Dyche picks Gana and Doucoure. Tim and Garner will be welcomed back and hopefully offer us alternatives.

Today was a different story obviously, with no McNeil either.

I'd really prefer we stopped acting like Gana and Doucoure are even close to the same level of player.

Anyway there isn't too much else to say right now, he's never going to be out of the team for long under Dyche because Dyche doesn't care if you can't pass or control the ball, if you have any clue in possession or if you make the right choices in attack. When those attributes matter again Abdoulaye we be gone forever.