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[JLW]

But he saved us from relegation

No he never!! although that's what his warped fat head believes

 

[Yarrgh]

Allerdyce saying if he had stayed and had the same investment? He blew 50 mil on Tosun and Walcott, imagine convincing Allan and James to come here aswell haha

Aye, in years to come no one would believe which pair cost more.

 

[MrGrumpy]

No he never!! although that's what his warped fat head believes

What you mean? We where 23rd and had -100 points when he took us over, that what he believes lol

 

[barneygumble]

We did well in his first few games then gradually we didn't attack at all. If he wanted to stay in his job we could have averaged more than 1 shot a game. Amazing how he thinks we could have trusted him to stay on.

I’m surprised that he made such a dig at the board. The same board who in the previous summer spent £100m+ and had given him £50m to spend on two players.

Just deflects anything negatives from
Himself.

 

[RomanReigns]

Allerdyce saying if he had stayed and had the same investment? He blew 50 mil on Tosun and Walcott, imagine convincing Allan and James to come here aswell haha

tbf they were emergency signings that had to be made in an inflated january transfer window in order to try and get the team to avoid relegation. I don't recall many people at the time being opposed to the signings. In fact both players did make an instant impact if i remember.

who knows what type of players allardyce would have brought in if he was given the opportunity to manage us long term, one of our worst ever managers silva signed richarlison who is one of our best players now. Allardyce has made some good signings in the past, especially during his Bolton days when he had money to spend such as youri djorkaeff, anelka, jay jay okocha, gary speed, ivan campo, fernando hierro, gudjohnson, kevin davies, henrik pederson etc

some big names in that list.

logically it made no sense to replace sam allardyce with marco silva, a manager who had just got a team relegated and had some horrendous records. If he had been replaced by a big name manager then fair enough but i think he has a point and given the failure of silva, a proven point that maybe he should have been given extra time. Whilst the football wasn't great, it was effective and he still got us to finish in 8th which was some achievement given how horrible that season started.

 

[Rob17896]

But he saved us from relegation

Tongue in cheek I hope! How that lump was ever associated with us beggars belief.

 

[Pabbers]

Its mad how he just pure lies in his interviews now. Its really sad.

 

[MrGrumpy]

tbf they were emergency signings that had to be made in an inflated january transfer window in order to try and get the team to avoid relegation. I don't recall many people at the time being opposed to the signings. In fact both players did make an instant impact if i remember.

who knows what type of players allardyce would have brought in if he was given the opportunity to manage us long term, one of our worst ever managers silva signed richarlison who is one of our best players now. Allardyce has made some good signings in the past, especially during his Bolton days when he had money to spend such as youri djorkaeff, anelka, jay jay okocha, gary speed, ivan campo, fernando hierro, gudjohnson, kevin davies, henrik pederson etc

some big names in that list.

logically it made no sense to replace sam allardyce with marco silva, a manager who had just got a team relegated and had some horrendous records. If he had been replaced by a big name manager then fair enough but i think he has a point and given the failure of silva, a proven point that maybe he should have been given extra time. Whilst the football wasn't great, it was effective and he still got us to finish in 8th which was some achievement given how horrible that season started.

No mate no he didn’t and no it wasn’t any achievement. We where 13th when he became manger. We won 1 game vs huddlesfield 1-0 and went 9th till the last day of the season.

 

[Yarrgh]

Its mad how he just pure lies in his interviews now. Its really sad.

But the audience for his lies aren't a former club's fans. It's for those who support teams that had nowt to do with him and who don't pay attention to anything but the nonsense on the back page or Talk Sport.

 

[RomanReigns]

No mate no he didn’t and no it wasn’t any achievement. We where 13th when he became manger. We won 1 game vs huddlesfield 1-0 and went 9th till the last day of the season.

we were 13th and 5 points above west ham in the relegation zone having just beaten west ham 4-0, 1 day before he was officially appointment and had apparently been in the dressing room for that west ham game which was deemed a 6 pointer.

Don't try and dress it up as we were fine cos we were 13th when he was officially appointed because we were an absolute shambles defensively leaking in more goals than 19th place Swansea. In his first 7 games, we only conceded 2 goals.

He came in, shored up the Defence and made us difficult to beat which saw us get vital wins at home to teams that were around us like Huddersfield, Swansea, Brighton, Palace etc. There were no shocking results during his tenure, the only home games we lost were to Man Utd and Man City. He was appointed to do exactly that, make sure safely avoided relegation and write off the abysmal season that was caused by Koeman.

 

[MrGrumpy]

we were 13th and 5 points above west ham in the relegation zone having just beaten west ham 4-0, 1 day before he was officially appointment and had apparently been in the dressing room for that west ham game which was deemed a 6 pointer.

Don't try and dress it up as we were fine cos we were 13th when he was officially appointed because we were an absolute shambles defensively leaking in more goals than 19th place Swansea. In his first 7 games, we only conceded 2 goals.

He came in, shored up the Defence and made us difficult to beat which saw us get vital wins at home to teams that were around us like Huddersfield, Swansea, Brighton, Palace etc. There were no shocking results during his tenure, the only home games we lost were to Man Utd and Man City. He was appointed to do exactly that, make sure safely avoided relegation and write off the abysmal season that was caused by Koeman.

No he didn’t and we where never ever going down it was a mistake to appoint him and will e forever a black Mark on our club. He played horrendous boring football that drove the fans away. He seems half empty stadiums. We went 4 games with zero shots on goal. An most games we won 1-0 after having 1 shot on target. He had a chance to show he wasn’t a boring manager and he failed totally. After his 1st game we where a point behind Spurs who I believe finished 4th that season and we ended 20 odd points behind them

 

[dublinbluenose]

tbf they were emergency signings that had to be made in an inflated january transfer window in order to try and get the team to avoid relegation. I don't recall many people at the time being opposed to the signings. In fact both players did make an instant impact if i remember.

who knows what type of players allardyce would have brought in if he was given the opportunity to manage us long term, one of our worst ever managers silva signed richarlison who is one of our best players now. Allardyce has made some good signings in the past, especially during his Bolton days when he had money to spend such as youri djorkaeff, anelka, jay jay okocha, gary speed, ivan campo, fernando hierro, gudjohnson, kevin davies, henrik pederson etc

some big names in that list.

logically it made no sense to replace sam allardyce with marco silva, a manager who had just got a team relegated and had some horrendous records. If he had been replaced by a big name manager then fair enough but i think he has a point and given the failure of silva, a proven point that maybe he should have been given extra time. Whilst the football wasn't great, it was effective and he still got us to finish in 8th which was some achievement given how horrible that season started.

Stay off the drugs mate

 

[RomanReigns]

No he didn’t and we where never ever going down it was a mistake to appoint him and will e forever a black Mark on our club. He played horrendous boring football that drove the fans away. He seems half empty stadiums. We went 4 games with zero shots on goal. An most games we won 1-0 after having 1 shot on target. He had a chance to show he wasn’t a boring manager and he failed totally. After his 1st game we where a point behind Spurs who I believe finished 4th that season and we ended 20 odd points behind them

We literally just beat Southampton 1-0 with 1 shot on target

He came in and was told to save the club from relegation that is a fact. He exceeded that target. He was not told to play attacking creative football like Man City and he never promised to do so. You seem to focus on the negatives yet you won’t comment on his home record or the fact that he only conceded 2 goals in his first 7 games or that he got a point at Anfield or the fact that he agreed to take over the club during a very chaotic and turbulent period.

 

[Marius57]

we were 13th and 5 points above west ham in the relegation zone having just beaten west ham 4-0, 1 day before he was officially appointment and had apparently been in the dressing room for that west ham game which was deemed a 6 pointer.

Don't try and dress it up as we were fine cos we were 13th when he was officially appointed because we were an absolute shambles defensively leaking in more goals than 19th place Swansea. In his first 7 games, we only conceded 2 goals.

He came in, shored up the Defence and made us difficult to beat which saw us get vital wins at home to teams that were around us like Huddersfield, Swansea, Brighton, Palace etc. There were no shocking results during his tenure, the only home games we lost were to Man Utd and Man City. He was appointed to do exactly that, make sure safely avoided relegation and write off the abysmal season that was caused by Koeman.

Don't buy the narrative that we were going to get relegated. We weren't.

Koeman had lost to Chelsea, spurs, United, arsenal and Burnley (and drew with man city) Allardyce lost to them all except for chelsea who he got a 0:0 draw with. And we actually had worse scorelines against arsenal and spurs.

Against the teams above: they both got 1 point from the games. Koeman: 3 scored 16 conceded.
Allardyce: 3 scored, 16 conceded.

In koemans other 3 games, he had beaten Stoke, Bournemouth and drew with Brighton so got 7 points. Allardyce got 6 points from his fixtures with them.
He was no better or worse. They were both abysmal.

 

[RomanReigns]

Don't buy the narrative that we were going to get relegated. We weren't.

Koeman had lost to Chelsea, spurs, United, arsenal and Burnley (and drew with man city) Allardyce lost to them all except for chelsea who he got a 0:0 draw with. And we actually had worse scorelines against arsenal and spurs.

Against the teams above: they both got 1 point from the games. Koeman: 3 scored 16 conceded.
Allardyce: 3 scored, 16 conceded.

In koemans other 3 games, he had beaten Stoke, Bournemouth and drew with Brighton so got 7 points. Allardyce got 6 points from his fixtures with them.
He was no better or worse. They were both abysmal.

i don't buy the narrative but if we were not at risk of relegation why didn't we just appoint an interim manager till the end of season like unsworth or big dunc or bring in an old favourite like peter reid or something? if there is an issue with sam allardyce's appointment then the backlash should be on moshiri who hired him.

we brought in the "expert" who saves teams from relegation. Were we ever at risk 12/13 games into the season, absolutely not but he was still brought in to ensure we did not get relegated because moshiri needed to protect his assets in order to provide investment for the next manager who he had lined up which was marco silva.

Koeman lost to Norwich and Leicester at home the previous year whereas Allardyce had no problems with the recently promoted sides and beat Leicester at home. At the end of the day he only lost two games at home to Man City and Man Utd, some would say expected losses, in fact Man Utd and Man City have already beaten us at home 3 times this season alone.

Allardyce did ok away from home and got wins at Newcastle, Stoke and Huddersfield.

The football was drub and dire, sure, i will give you that. Would i have wanted to give him more time and money to spend, absolutely not, but was he our worst ever manager or one of the worst? i don't see it personally.

I don't see how he can be worse than koeman or silva, particularly the latter. Silva is one the worst appointments this club has ever made imo.