2019/20 Andre Gomes

[HKIV]

Please explain why you are so bothered mate? Not a dig, genuinely would like to know

I am always interested in peoples motivations/reasoning for posting clearly irrational responses.

I think maybe I am missing something.

Dozens of people on here think the trip by Son `deserved a red card' because of Gomes subsequent injury.

I am interested to know how they think this `new' rule will play out in other games.

It makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever,

 

[HKIV]

So now you're veering into "I was right all along and everyone else was wrong" territory on a completely unrelated matter.

Take the point on board or don't mate, it's up to you. But don't be surprised as to why everyone is calling you out for acting like a prat.

I still waiting for an explanation, anything? From anyone about how this retrospective on field punishment based on players injuries is going to work.

 

[The binman chronicles]

I am always interested in peoples motivations/reasoning for posting clearly irrational responses.

I think maybe I am missing something.

Dozens of people on here think the trip by Son `deserved a red card' because of Gomes subsequent injury.

I am interested to know how they think this `new' rule will play out in other games.

It makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever,

How many leg breaks/serious injuries occur per season due to professional fouls where the player did not make a proper attempt for the ball?

I would guess you can probably count them on one hand. This isn't going to revolutionise the game.

 

[HKIV]

So now you're veering into "I was right all along and everyone else was wrong" territory on a completely unrelated matter.

Take the point on board or don't mate, it's up to you. But don't be surprised as to why everyone is calling you out for acting like a prat.

Ive been wrong a million times.

What was interesting is that myself and a tiny handful of posters rationally explained why we believed we had weakned our squad over the summer. Jeez, even Silva hinted that in pre season press conferances.

Those that disagreed did not explain how we had improved. They all just laughed when we said Brands had made a massive balls up.

 

[evisublue]

I am always interested in peoples motivations/reasoning for posting clearly irrational responses.

I think maybe I am missing something.

Dozens of people on here think the trip by Son `deserved a red card' because of Gomes subsequent injury.

I am interested to know how they think this `new' rule will play out in other games.

It makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever,

I was thinking about this... Remember when Holgate shoved Firmino into the stands in the cup derby, that feels like a yellow card for me. If Firmino had suffered a broken leg as a result colliding with the billboards I think I would've accepted that it deserved a red. Perhaps that's not the letter of the law, but it feels rational to me.

 

[Seanjd]

I still waiting for an explanation, anything? From anyone about how this retrospective on field punishment based on players injuries is going to work.

It’s not like this will happen all of the time. The referee saw a foul take place, gave a yellow, looked at Andre’s foot hanging off and subsequently changed it to a red as it was a more dangerous challenge to what he originally thought.

Ive been wrong a million times.

What was interesting is that myself and a tiny handful of posters rationally explained why we believed we had weakned our squad over the summer. Jeez, even Silva hinted that in pre season press conferances.

Those that disagreed did not explain how we had improved. They all just laughed when we said Brands had made a massive balls up.

This is the André Gomes thread.

 

[Frang]

Ive been wrong a million times.

What was interesting is that myself and a tiny handful of posters rationally explained why we believed we had weakned our squad over the summer. Jeez, even Silva hinted that in pre season press conferances.

Those that disagreed did not explain how we had improved. They all just laughed when we said Brands had made a massive balls up.

this ^^

 

[bring the ghost on]

What was interesting is that myself and a tiny handful of posters rationally explained why we believed we had weakned our squad over the summer. Jeez, even Silva hinted that in pre season press conferances.

Those that disagreed did not explain how we had improved. They all just laughed when we said Brands had made a massive balls up.

My god. You're like Alan Partridge, but without the comedy value.

"People criticised my book, just because I used the phrase 'needless to say I had the last laugh'... 14 times".

 

[bilyaletdinov_]

I am always interested in peoples motivations/reasoning for posting clearly irrational responses.

I think maybe I am missing something.

Dozens of people on here think the trip by Son `deserved a red card' because of Gomes subsequent injury.

I am interested to know how they think this `new' rule will play out in other games.

It makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever,

Going from your previous posts alluding to the fact that this is a freak incident and 1 in 10,000 occurrence (may not have been yourself who posted that) the likelihood of coming across this situation again is slim.

Therefore given these extraordinary circumstances and the severity of the injury sustained is it really unreasonable to consider these factors when deciding what punishment Son should face?

I understand the viewpoint that looking at the challenge (which come on was much more than a trip) at face value should probably see it as a yellow card at most - but I also agree that given the outcome of the tackle it escalates the foul from one type to another.

Personally I don’t care whether or not Spurs appeal is successful - the only irrational thing in my mind is those amongst us who are so determined to plead Son’s case

 

[Fansince1988]

It's not about point scoring with this kinda of thing but I respectfully say he won't mate having done the same thing myself. As you rightly say he should in no way be rushed back.

Yes after working it out 6 months won’t be long enough, unless he has incredible healing powers. But after reading he had successful surgery, I wouldn’t say the start of next season couldn’t be ruled out for his return 9ish months that would be that is possible, with all the specialists he will have caring for him.

 

[Frang]

Yes after working it out 6 months won’t be long enough, unless he has incredible healing powers. But after reading he had successful surgery, I wouldn’t say the start of next season couldn’t be ruled out for his return 9ish months that would be that is possible, with all the specialists he will have caring for him.

no doubt gomes will be in one of those hyperbaric chambers next week, to help healing all the scar tissue etc etc

the treatment he will be having is not just the run of your mill NHS stuff we get...

so if all goes well you might be very surprised how soon this injury could actually heal up, esp if the ligament damage is minimal as has been suggested

 

[Lineker]

It was clear Son was going to have a go at Gomes...my feed stuttered as Son was running toward him and I knew what was going to happen...it was clear he lost his head from the earlier incident. He wanted to give him a kick. He didn't want to end his career, but if you kill someone during the commission of a lesser crime it doesn't mean you get off for the killing.

Disgraceful that the ref had the yellow out then changed his mind once he knew the decision would be scrutin ized...he knew the two had been recently involved and that Son had lost it.

 

[Deleted member 38674]

@Keiran

Because it’s interesting?

It’s a current affair that happened at an Everton game, of course we should discuss it.

If they rescind it or not I don’t mind, I’ve said that repeatedly. But I think they will based on the tackle and it doesn’t surprise me that Spurs appealed.

This argument that you can only have a certain viewpoint to qualify as a fan is a bit daft.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Challenges with no intent to win the ball happen all the time. But they are almost always pushes, nudges, shirt pulls or trips.

LUNGES with no attempt whatsoever to win the ball happen very rarely in football. This was one of these occasions. It was a red mist incident where he lost his head and wanted to leave one on an opponent. This was certainly not your typical cynical take one for the team foul..

If he gets off on this, not only will the narrative to make son the victim have won, but it legitimises lunges in the game even when you go after the man deliberately.

 

[BernieH]

Hilarious that some people don't think a deliberate lunge from behind with the sole intention of tripping up a player that resulted in a break isn't a foul or red. Absolutely baffling.