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Are we to blame?

Are the fans to blame?

  • Yes mate

  • No lad

  • Cheese on toast

  • I’m dead angry at a screen.

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chicoazul said:
Can we have point or order here, sausage pips bacon as king of the breakfast butty.
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Sausage has been on a steady decline since the move away from the intestine casing and introduction of greater vegan options.

A fading star, living on past glories and will be remembered as a mistake in 20 years time when we all be enjoy avocado on sourdough.
 
chicoazul said:
Now hear me out on this but I’ve been thinking that there has to be something else that is a consistent in the failure of repeated Everton managers with an owner backing them financially. Obviously it’s not nice to hear this but do we as fans cause the toxicity around our club that means all are doomed to fail? Not saying it’s entirely the fans fault but the atmosphere of hysteria created by Evertonians is worse than Geordies, young players abused by fat dars or over hyped by FIFA obsessed millennials don’t stand a chance. Current narrative is that Moshiri is failing Everton but in my mind the fans are in cahoots with him after celebrating wildly a rich stranger taking over the club more than we celebrated the last trophy in 1995. Evertonians deserve better is a strap line used often but why do they deserve better and is this part of the entitled narrative that burdens anyone trying to fix the problem? Some, well many, Evertonians sabotage managerial appointments from the start as it wasn’t the manager they wanted and scouted themselves, so want to be proved right in their heads by the manager’s failure rather than Everton success.
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The fans didn’t sign Iwobi and Rondon and give Tom Davies another 5 year contract
 


No way

Our club lacks identity and is disconnected bc we've had so many managers in and out, trying to get different types of players who suit their tactics. That's not an us fault, it's a lack of consistency issue.

It also falls on these managers to get their players in order, and our issues with finance don't help them with making those adjustments quickly, but it still has to come to them and their man management. Also not our fault
 
ToffeeDevil said:
No way

Our club lacks identity and is disconnected bc we've had so many managers in and out, trying to get different types of players who suit their tactics. That's not an us fault, it's a lack of consistency issue.

It also falls on these managers to get their players in order, and our issues with finance don't help them with making those adjustments quickly, but it still has to come to them and their man management. Also not our fault
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Are you from Newcastle mate? Welcome to GOT.
 
degsy said:
We've been here before, many times in similar guises.

The fans don't cheer and shout enough - Give us something to cheer and shout about = positive feedback, like Arsenal the other week.
When the fans chear and shout at the start...and they do, then you're a goal down in 90secs - silence = negative feedback.
Then you have
Rondon
Iwobi
only 2 in the middle
zonal marking
cutting your nose of to spite your face/ make an example of Digne.
General divi subs policy
Plus other stuff
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Ah it's hard to back and be vocal over last number of years and benitez isnt going to unite us. I do feel the goodison crowd has the potential to make a difference though between keeping us up and a possible relegation
 

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