Barca - Real Madrid

[GhostOfDixie]

Couldn't watch it.

I watched the highlights later.

I would like to make some comments about some of the things I read in this thread.

About Carvalho, I think he's not involved in any of the goals.

Inter's luck... well, I think they played really well in Italy and deserved their win. In the second leg, we all remember Busquets' antics that made the italians play one man short.

Fact: the only CL won by Guardiola, as Barça coach, has blood in it. English blood because Chelsea was blatantly ROBBED!!!!

Another fact: Cristiano Ronaldo is cr@p and Mourinho is ace!

Madrid just had a bad night, just like the spaniards had their own against Argentina and Portugal.

And another fact: I think that, since Ronaldo arrived to Madrid, the Barça players have spoken about Messi being number one every single week. Right now, they make sure they tell the world how wonderful Guardiola is and how cr@p Mourinho is. In case they didn't noticed, Mourinho won the CL with Porto!!! Beat that....

Mourinho will get his vengeance..."watch this space"

Did Barça score any goal in any other way apart from counter attack? Funny how a such attacking minded side score so many (if not the most) goals in the counter.

How predictable.

 

[Aztattooedfootballfan]

Oh lord. As if the same crap isn't coming from the Madrid camp talking like they have accomplished something already with this lineup and putting down Barcelona in any chance they get.

The Super genius of a coach seems to have to go back to the drawing board. There is already talk over there that I copied this from a friend who commented on what he is noticing:

I love that the moral that Madridistas seemed to have taken from this match is that Mourinho was wrong to play his normal number of attackers and push his defense up as high as he does against other league sides. The lesson is supposed to be that, when we go to the Bernabeu, they should play with three defensive midfielders, defensive wingers, a target man, and a bus parked in the 18-yard box.

Let's say they do this and nick a favorable 1-1 or 1-0 result. What will that show? That, after spending 300 million Euros and hiring an inter-galactic genius for a coach they can . . . play like a b-team and get the same kind of result against us that Rubin Kazin, F.C. Copenhagen, and Hercules can?

Meanwhile, we can comprehensively wipe the floor with them playing our style, our way.

 

[stinger]

Exactly. I read Madridistas reaction when he put Lass in 2nd half, they weren't happy.

 

[sotnas]

Funny how Mourinho is put into the line.

I won't argue wether he is the top man in the world or not. But the fact that this was his worst defeat should tell something beyond the humiliation in it.

His curriculum should speak for himself. He has been at the top long enough to be up there with SAF, Louis Van Gaal, Capello or Lippi. I don't think there is any other man, presently working as a manager, who could earn the right to be a contender to the best manager in the world.

Guardiola shall be that man, but his career hasn't been long enough to be considered in my view.

I must admit that I don't fancy Mourinho's personality. Guardiola looks a gentleman when both are compared. But I still remember Guardiola's "pellea de honor" with the ref when Rivaldo's out side of the box shot was ruled out for offside. Tragic decision by the ref. At the end of the game we all saw Guardiola cryin out his feelings. It even touched the most hardened hearts. It was all fair. and about the honesty and honor in the game.

But then we all watched Chelsea and Barcelona. A scandalous robbery happened at Stamford Bridge. Iniesta socres a goal and Guardiola goes nuts!!! Intriguing.

I don't think Barça is all that superior. The result does not reflect the difference between both teams. And anyone who says it does has a serious mental problem. Bad days happen to anyone.

Again, Mourinho will get his vengeance. And it doesn't mean he will give the 5 back. Winning La Liga and/or the CL, will be vengeance enough.

 

[davek]

You cant really compare Guardiola and Mourinho. If the former had ever managed an unfancied European force like Porto and steered them to CL success then we'd be in business. Mourinho has proven he can build a team to win the very top prize and inherit one and make them a force in Europe again. No doubt Guardiola is a very good coach, but he's taken over at a club that were CL winners two seasons previously and beaten in the semi a year later. And he inherited the jewels in the crown brought through by Rijkaard: Inesta, Xavi and Messi.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

You cant really compare Guardiola and Mourinho. If the former had ever managed an unfancied European force like Porto and steered them to CL success then we'd be in business. Mourinho has proven he can build a team to win the very top prize and inherit one and make them a force in Europe again. No doubt Guardiola is a very good coach, but he's taken over at a club that were CL winners two seasons previously and beaten in the semi a year later. And he inherited the jewels in the crown brought through by Rijkaard: Inesta, Xavi and Messi.

Worth noting that he was actually the B-team manager prior to being head coach, where such players were developed.

 

[sotnas]

You cant really compare Guardiola and Mourinho. If the former had ever managed an unfancied European force like Porto and steered them to CL success then we'd be in business. Mourinho has proven he can build a team to win the very top prize and inherit one and make them a force in Europe again. No doubt Guardiola is a very good coach, but he's taken over at a club that were CL winners two seasons previously and beaten in the semi a year later. And he inherited the jewels in the crown brought through by Rijkaard: Inesta, Xavi and Messi.

I agree with most of your thoughts.

But let's not underestimate the role Guardiola had by bringing players like Pedro, Busquets, Bojan and other kids into the squad. He's the true and natural successor to Johan Cruyff.

I pay him that respect.

Mourinho did make that trick of winning a CL with Porto. But that team was the base of the national team that reached the final of the Euro 2004.

He had some very good players like the ones he brought to Chelsea or Deco, who went on to be an important player at Barcelona.

But yeah, Mourinho made a team with peanuts in his pockets.

 

[Deleted member 28206]

...won 1-5 again tonight, this quite frankly
Is becoming a farce of goals.

 

[Jamo Martinez]

Crazy at the moment what Barça are doing. I bet Arsenal are glad they don't play them now. A lot can change between now and February. But right now they are totally unplayable. Won 10 on the trot. Last 6 league games with a goal difference of 29 for, 1 against.