Best UK Prime Minister of last 40 years

[The binman chronicles]

Always seems off the way that Blair is portrayed as the sole architect of the Good Friday Agreement and it was something that wouldn't have been achieved under anyone else. Simply not true, it required a hell of a lot more than that. Some things just happen on a certain PM's watch and Blair happened to be PM when there was enough will to make a deal happen.

John Major tried and couldn't get it to stick, can you imagine Brown trying to negotiate that kind of deal? Like him or not he was a people person who was able to massage egos enough to push it through and even then it nearly collapsed. A lot of politicians wouldn't have had the gumption to stick with it over days of negotiations.

He, Mo and Clinton, were key to it getting it over the line. To say anything but is just showing the bias to suit your overall view of the man.

 

[Chewbacca]

Maggie...first female PM, put Britain back on the map after the 60's/70's doldrums, intelligent no-nonsense character, inspired the last great Pink Floyd album.

Cameron is underrated, gave the people the chance to vote for their future (unlike other European Nations) and his was generally a tidy government.


Brown far too nervous on the job, Major's cabinet too sleazy, Blair is a genuine wrongun. Theresa & Boris ok but underwhelming.

Obvious and odious wummery

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Will be citing some of yous lot in my next essay.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

John Major tried and couldn't get it to stick, can you imagine Brown trying to negotiate that kind of deal? Like him or not he was a people person who was able to massage egos enough to push it through and even then it nearly collapsed. A lot of politicians wouldn't have had the gumption to stick with it over days of negotiations.

He, Mo and Clinton, were key to it getting it over the line. To say anything but is just showing the bias to suit your overall view of the man.

Flipping heck, he's trying to claim credit for that now and all? @davek this ones for you.

 

[chicoazul]

I’ll take @chicoazul ’s mom

You’ll have to sieve her out of some water first.

 

[Charro]

Obvious and odious wummery

Put Britain back on the map is a genuine LOL.

Like we we're some sort of indie country not many people had heard of until our third album went global.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Put Britain back on the map is a genuine LOL.

Like we we're some sort of indie country not many people had heard of until our third album went global.

True story.

Album cover and sleeve liner....

 

[FrenchDarrenBent]

Fair comment, but that did heavily increase public spending which had the domino-effect of Britain needing austerity post-crash..

That's been widely debunked. You can't cut your way to prosperity

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/07/imf-austerity-doesnt-work-immigrants-working-class

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

That's been widely debunked. You can't cut your way to prosperity

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/07/imf-austerity-doesnt-work-immigrants-working-class

Not to mention the reason we 'needed' austerity was the banking sector's bonkers lending practices aided and abetted by weak regulation. The latter bit can be levelled at Labour, but it was a transnational issue. No doubt got suckered by the 'global competitiveness' line.

But yeah, funny how the public sector paid the price.

 

[Kurt.]

You’ll have to sieve her out of some water first.

You’ll have to sieve her out of some water first.

My wholehearted apologies.. was supposed to be goats mar but I couldn’t remember what user name he goes by these days

 

[Kurt.]

John Major tried and couldn't get it to stick, can you imagine Brown trying to negotiate that kind of deal? Like him or not he was a people person who was able to massage egos enough to push it through and even then it nearly collapsed. A lot of politicians wouldn't have had the gumption to stick with it over days of negotiations.

He, Mo and Clinton, were key to it getting it over the line. To say anything but is just showing the bias to suit your overall view of the man.

Don’t underestimate the work Corbyn also put in without seeking praise for it

 

[Jebus_lives]

Fair comment, but that did heavily increase public spending which had the domino-effect of Britain needing austerity post-crash.


wasn't just him but he did have a key role.


which is one way of putting it...another way is destabilising a nation by forced regime change, sanctioning the killing of hundreds-of-thousands of Iraqis on the way, which still today has several unpleasant domino-effects, even within Europe.

The most profound error of judgement any PM has made in living memory.

We wouldn't have Brexit if we had a PM who refused Bush.



Blair's electioneering should be studied for how to beat the Tories, deffo. The only one to do so since before the Maggie-era.

Tho' i'm pretty sure John Smith would've won the '97 GE had he lived. Even tories in my family at the time were really impressed by him.

Good point, I can't remember Thatcher getting close with US presidents and influencing regime change in foreign countries which had domino effects across the region.

 

[Jebus_lives]

True story.

Album cover and sleeve liner....

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Surprised this hasn't made the "best intro?" thread. Must be the only song that hasn't.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

My wholehearted apologies.. was supposed to be goats mar but I couldn’t remember what user name he goes by these days

If you use @snidermum three times then she will emerge.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Can we get this thread moved to current affairs please?