Best UK Prime Minister of last 40 years

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Surprised at @davek not providing his take on this.

 

[AsiaAsia82]

Great way to sniff out Tories this

Blair was a sort of Tory too but with the blood of many on his hands.
Brown was sort of like when Colin Harvey took over from Kendalll.

So not really a great selection there tbh

 

[chrismpw]

Can we get this thread moved to current affairs please?

All prime ministers are now history (thankfully including Boris). What part of "current" are yees struggling with there then?

 

[JimmyJeffers]

All prime ministers are now history (thankfully including Boris). What part of "current" are yees struggling with there then?

I’ll torpedo your barge mate

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I’ll torpedo your barge mate

Women's Hour on permanent loop

 

[Joey66]

Blair by a mile.

Didn't know how good you had it under Nu Labour.

Take the B out & you have a war crinimal a Tory in a red rossette - they are all below standard some worse than others imo.....the Thatcher government had to be the worst .....

 

[tommye]

Gobshites to a man/woman.



Has to be Maggie. She's the only one who's dead, which still makes me smile regularly.
None of the others make me smile.
Maybe when they're dead.
Who knows?

 

[gedefc]

Blair

 

[IrishBlue2022]

The good Friday agreement has provided NI with long term peace.

So yeah, Blair.

Otherwise, we had it 'good' because he presided over economically stable times

…as a Civil Servant, the public services offer under Blair was the best I saw in 40 years. Easy to forget the troubles in N Ireland before he sorted them, such a shame he got too friendly with Bush.

Labour leaders should study Blair to determine what went right and what went wrong.

I wouldn't say Blair solved any issues here and the Good Friday Agreement was nothing but a sticking plaster. Thats why it was the Good Friday Agreement and not the Great Friday Agreement.

But from my work in the community sector a Labour PM provided much better opportunities for organisations on the ground for 'peace and reconciliation' and general work in disadvantaged communities in general.

 

[davek]

Surprised at @davek not providing his take on this.

It's a contradiction in terms.

 

[Terrarian]

None, there are zero good politicians, they're systematic liars, you have to be a bit of a weasel to want to be a politician if you ask me, play your narcissistic games which only the poor feel, rich guys won't be struggling with the cost of living will they, as usual it's the ones close to poverty struggling even further.

The whole system needs changing, it's such a farce we have to go through voting for the same 2 parties everytime only for nothing to change.

So there haven't been any good PM's in the last 40years, liars weasel's and thieves the lot of them.

 

[longers]

None, there are zero good politicians, they're systematic liars, you have to be a bit of a weasel to want to be a politician if you ask me, play your narcissistic games which only the poor feel, rich guys won't be struggling with the cost of living will they, as usual it's the ones close to poverty struggling even further.

I mean this just isn’t true and a pretty lazy generalisation. Explain how Bernie Sanders who has spent five decades campaigning for improvements to everyday Americans lives is a bad person ? Or Nina Turner ? I don’t love Corbyn but at no point would I consider him a bad person who was in it for himself.

The problem is the good ones rarely end up in power. They exist though.

 

[Terrarian]

I mean this just isn’t true and a pretty lazy generalisation. Explain how Bernie Sanders who has spent five decades campaigning for improvements to everyday Americans lives is a bad person ?

Well I'm English so could not give a flying one about any American politicians they get voted into power by promising rich people things when in power, it's all a load of BS, it's up to you to keep voting for the same 2 parties over there same as here.

He's a rich old white man, we need to move away from this method in both countries. All liars, every single one of them, weasel's and liars.

 

[ClausThomsen]

John Major tried and couldn't get it to stick, can you imagine Brown trying to negotiate that kind of deal? Like him or not he was a people person who was able to massage egos enough to push it through and even then it nearly collapsed. A lot of politicians wouldn't have had the gumption to stick with it over days of negotiations.

He, Mo and Clinton, were key to it getting it over the line. To say anything but is just showing the bias to suit your overall view of the man.

At no point have I argued he had no role in it. I'm arguing against the portrayal of him as the man that brought an end to The Troubles. Major would have been involved years before, Brown, as you say, is an imaginary failure. Neither were PM at the time Blair was and neither was involved in the exact same circumstance.

George Mitchell especially doesn't get an ounce of the engineered fanfare that Blair gets. If you want to talk about the people person who massaged egos and patiently listened and negotiated then what he did is a 1000 times what Blair ever did. Blair and others definitely tweaked Mitchell's work here and there and did play a part but the lion's share of the negotiating, massaging and patience was Mitchell.

But then Mitchell didn't have a team making sure he was getting splashed all over the papers in stage managed sleeves rolled up "look at me negotiating, this is my stern negotiating face" pictures.

 

[Kurt.]

Take the B out & you have a war crinimal a Tory in a red rossette - they are all below standard some worse than others imo.....the Thatcher government had to be the worst .....

Lair ?