Bilic confirming that abusing players effects their game

[Noisy noise annoys]

Absolutely!

Yet if you suggest the fans might be part of the problem, there's seemingly little introspection or corrective action

Yep! These people are not for turning

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

They don't understand what supporting actually is, it should be about encouragement, guidance, letting them know they are not alone.
Unfortunately for too many it's a pint of beer, a moan and a smoke bomb

Out moaning the guy next to you

 

[Legend Barry Horne]

Many simply deny it out right

Yes - exactly, they just don't recognise it or don't want to recognise it

It's the Trump sort of mindset, denying reality

But these guys are a key root cause of the downward spiral I believe. I don't know what the answer is though - is there a way to improve the situation?

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Cool
Carry, dont be surprised when more if our players get worse as a result though

At this point I’d be amazed if any of our players can actually get any worse!!!!!
What will they do to achieve this feat , combine to score as many own goals as possible.

 

[COYBL25]

There was a weekend recently in the junior leagues when parents were told not to shout encouragement from the sidelines, as support for referees. After my lad's team's game they all said they preferred the silence.
But it was soul less.
I think it's indicative of 'society' that encouraging youngsters in sport, cheering them on, supporting them, would suffer because some parents are absolute bellwhiffs and scream and shout at referees and opposing players.

Last season, my lads Saturday league, introduced ropes, lining the sidelines off and they were placed a certain distance away from the sidelines - they`ve had them in kids rugby for years and call them " respect lines ".

It worked a treat, as for some reason, the physical barrier of the ropes and standing that little bit further back, made the more nutty parents, wind their necks in.

 

[Legend Barry Horne]

They don't understand what supporting actually is, it should be about encouragement, guidance, letting them know they are not alone.
Unfortunately for too many it's a pint of beer, a moan and a smoke bomb

Exactly!

But why do so many on this forum not take that view?

 

[4737carlin]

Exactly!

But why do so many on this forum not take that view?

I don't know, I think forums tend to attract a lot of odd balls, thankfully there are plenty of normal people on here too to explain things too them, if they refuse to listen and see sense there's not much we can do.

 

[Ferguson1878]

They don't understand what supporting actually is, it should be about encouragement, guidance, letting them know they are not alone.
Unfortunately for too many it's a pint of beer, a moan and a smoke bomb

Hahahah so you was singin encouragement for benitiez when everyone had turned on him by last December doubt it

 

[magicjuan]

Last season, my lads Saturday league, introduced ropes, lining the sidelines off and they were placed a certain distance away from the sidelines - they`ve had them in kids rugby for years and call them " respect lines ".

It worked a treat, as for some reason, the physical barrier of the ropes and standing that little bit further back, made the more nutty parents, wind their necks in.

We sort of have them, as one of the 'coaches' I'm on the opposite side and tend to be the loudest, but it's all encouragement or 'tactical' stuff, never critical, so I get told of some of the stuff. The ropes make some parents just shout louder because they just have to be heard, self indulgent, priviliged bells. And the mothers tend to be just as bad as they cheer on 'johnny meal ticket' in his man bun and 'academy ststus' ?

 

[Ferguson1878]

I don't know, I think forums tend to attract a lot of odd balls, thankfully there are plenty of normal people on here too to explain things too them, if they refuse to listen and see sense there's not much we can do.

Most sane fans don’t want to be happy clappers that’s what’s got us in this position in the first place

 

[Huyton Layne]

Does he have any input on how one Croatian scab can affect an entire fanbase's mental health?

 

[PhilEFC]

Not even close to being as bad as ours, not even close, besides that doesn't make it right.

Really? How do you know? Do you go to other grounds?

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Yes - exactly, they just don't recognise it or don't want to recognise it

It's the Trump sort of mindset, denying reality

But these guys are a key root cause of the downward spiral I believe. I don't know what the answer is though - is there a way to improve the situation?

So the cause of our 30 year decline isn’t poor administration , poor managers , poor players , underfunding , lack of a structure befitting a modern football club, multiple changes of direction, spending too much on poor players ?
No , according to you it’s because some lad in the Park End occasionally calls Keane ‘a useless carthorse’ or some such!
haha words fail me , you utter beaut !

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Yes - exactly, they just don't recognise it or don't want to recognise it

It's the Trump sort of mindset, denying reality

But these guys are a key root cause of the downward spiral I believe. I don't know what the answer is though - is there a way to improve the situation?

No! It actually gets worse the worse we get !

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Last season, my lads Saturday league, introduced ropes, lining the sidelines off and they were placed a certain distance away from the sidelines - they`ve had them in kids rugby for years and call them " respect lines ".

It worked a treat, as for some reason, the physical barrier of the ropes and standing that little bit further back, made the more nutty parents, wind their necks in.

Same at my sons