Bilic confirming that abusing players effects their game

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

I think the constant groans at misplaced passes and booing of your own team has an affect for sure. There's loads of opposition players that say they use it to their advantage at goodison.

And what’s the answer to it?

This is why I feel the whole sentiment of this topic is misplaced

How do you stop fans groaning when their football club is losing and they’re depressed or angry about it?

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

When my 6 year old misplaces passes as he often does, I don't scream at him to be substituted and boo him tbf

That’s a massive false equivalence that has absolutely zero credence, but you do you

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Again, as a parent your job is to be honest with your child so they know what comes with the career they’re looking at doing

At what point do you tell your child this? I’ve always been very honest with my kids but, I’m not letting them cancel their dreams cos of some dinosaurs.
The crux is this, the fans are making the players worse by their behaviour.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

And what’s the answer to it?

This is why I feel the whole sentiment of this topic is misplaced

How do you stop fans groaning when their football club is losing and they’re depressed or angry about it?

Agree btw. Just realise that it is counter productive

 

[Muggins]

But it has zero to do with this conversation

Sorry mate. I just find it odd that someone who did the club over would feel the need to talk about us.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Again, I would be interested to know how many of posters in here have never done the things they’re having a go at others for doing

I’d imagine it’s zero

 

[witchdoc187]

And what’s the answer to it?

This is why I feel the whole sentiment of this topic is misplaced

How do you stop fans groaning when their football club is losing and they’re depressed or angry about it?

I know what you mean but the point is you need to get behind your team as difficult as it is when we're so poor. But when opposition players and managers are constantly saying they use the fans at goodison to their advantage something isn't right. Yes occasional groans happen. But it's constant. I dunno mate I guess I'm just saying we put too much pressure on our players. I don't know the solution... Put less on them I guess

 

[Muggins]

At what point do you tell your child this? I’ve always been very honest with my kids but, I’m not letting them cancel their dreams cos of some dinosaurs.
The crux is this, the fans are making the players worse by their behaviour.

That’s a sweeping statement. What have I done to make the players worse? Every week I’m on here telling them to shoot!!!

 

[witchdoc187]

That’s a massive false equivalence that has absolutely zero credence, but you do you

Well it's not is it. When do I start telling him he isn't good enough for the shirt? 19?

 

[summerisle]

I often wonder why many players bother to play professional football. If you had the talent to make it to the higher echelons of the game, why would you not want to express it fully to your best ability. Instead, some imagine that because they have reached the top it entitles them to put in half-arsed perfomances, continue to pick up a ginormous wedge, and expect no criticism. Sorry chaps, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

 

[Hendi]

You sound like an abuser who needs to abuse

 

[atypicalusername]

Again, I would be interested to know how many of posters in here have never done the things they’re having a go at others for doing

I’d imagine it’s zero

Nobody is perfect but I think the point of the thread is that it's us shooting ourselves in the foot and creating a cycle of bad performances from individuals and in turn can create increasingly bad results.

That's how I read it anyway?

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Well it's not is it. When do I start telling him he isn't good enough for the shirt? 19?

Do you know any parents of footballers or potential footballers?

Because I do, and some of them have had to have the “it might be time to try something else with your life” chat with them for various reasons

There are a lot of players that don’t make it and it’s a very painful decision for a lot of them when the realisation hits that it’s just not going to happen

There are tears, anger, depression, resentment, you name it

As a parent you should be as supportive as possible, but you also need to be responsible and realistic with your child, no matter how uncomfortable that is

Talking about booing your six year old misses the point entirely, because any parent worthy of the title wouldn’t do that so it was stupid to say it

However, at 13/14 you might need to tell your kid that it’s not happening, and that’s probably going to hurt. A lot. Especially if it’s their dream

You need to discuss many things with your child if they want to be a footballer. The pressure of playing on the big stage is just one of those things. A responsible parent has those discussions

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Sorry mate. I just find it odd that someone who did the club over would feel the need to talk about us.

Fair enough
Is missing the point a little though

 

[PhilEFC]

Didn’t Bilic go awol whilst still being paid by Everton?

Yes. I can’t believe anyone would listen to that tool.

He was happy to take the big money though. A mercenary like a lot of footballers who don’t invest nearly as much as the supporters of their club.