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Bill Kenwright

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AndyC said:
Again, with respect no. Listen to the whole thing and it will become abundantly clear.
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Moshiri and AU owned 30% of Arsenal, with zero influence. Unless Pauls followers, and others, raise a few billion to buy out Moshiri, unless I have missed sommet, (obvs have apparently), I just dont get it. And with respect, I am not going to spend an hour working that out.

Its a simple question mate. How do 4% shareholders develop meaningful change at the club? Other than not being Kenwright.

I am not dismissive of the idea, I suggested similar to fund the stadium back in the day, and I respect Paul, so there must be a silver bullet, I just cant see it.
 
roydo said:
Moshiri and AU owned 30% of Arsenal, with zero influence. Unless Pauls followers, and others, raise a few billion to buy out Moshiri, unless I have missed sommet, (obvs have apparently), I just dont get it. And with respect, I am not going to spend an hour working that out.

Its a simple question mate. How do 4% shareholders develop meaningful change at the club? Other than not being Kenwright.

I am not dismissive of the idea, I suggested similar to fund the stadium back in the day, and I respect Paul, so there must be a silver bullet, I just cant see it.
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Again and with the utmost respect, you need to listen to the entire discussion before making a judgment call.
We're painfully aware that while Moshiri holds 94%+ of the shares, he is to all intents and purposes in utter control... but, he's in utter control now and can't seem to oust BK.
The podcast offers a germ of an idea and a potential way to force things in the manner most Blues appear to want... removal of the Chairman.
 
AndyC said:
Again and with the utmost respect, you need to listen to the entire discussion before making a judgment call.
We're painfully aware that while Moshiri holds 94%+ of the shares, he is to all intents and purposes in utter control... but, he's in utter control now and can't seem to oust BK.
The podcast offers a germ of an idea and a potential way to force things in the manner most Blues appear to want... removal of the Chairman.
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Despite the DM, going round in circles. A Chairman is appointed by an Owner. BK having no shares does not preclude Moshiri keeping him on. I thought Paul would have got that. Sure, it sends a message, but ultimately means zip.
 
roydo said:
Despite the DM, going round in circles. A Chairman is appointed by an Owner. BK having no shares does not preclude Moshiri keeping him on. I thought Paul would have got that. Sure, it sends a message, but ultimately means zip.
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Mate, I'm not going round and round with you.
I've asked/suggested anybody/everybody listen to the entire podcast BEFORE making a judgment - as we discuss all you're talking about, and take it further.
If you can't be bothered to listen to it all, that's fine.
I'm not here to force you to, merely suggesting strongly that you take just over an hour to listen to the entire discussion.
If you still prefer not to, like I say that's fine - just allow others to and to form their own opinion.
 

AndyC said:
Mate, I'm not going round and round with you.
I've asked/suggested anybody/everybody listen to the entire podcast BEFORE making a judgment - as we discuss all you're talking about, and take it further.
If you can't be bothered to listen to it all, that's fine.
I'm not here to force you to, merely suggesting strongly that you take just over an hour to listen to the entire discussion.
If you still prefer not to, like I say that's fine - just allow others to and to form their own opinion.
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If you could just basically outline why buying Kenwrights shares by the fans, stops an owner just keeping him, I am all ears.

I am not an apologist, I just dont get why an owner cant appoint anyone he wants.
 
roydo said:
Moshiri and AU owned 30% of Arsenal, with zero influence. Unless Pauls followers, and others, raise a few billion to buy out Moshiri, unless I have missed sommet, (obvs have apparently), I just dont get it. And with respect, I am not going to spend an hour working that out.

Its a simple question mate. How do 4% shareholders develop meaningful change at the club? Other than not being Kenwright.

I am not dismissive of the idea, I suggested similar to fund the stadium back in the day, and I respect Paul, so there must be a silver bullet, I just cant see it.
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Im not sure the idea proposed was to influence the general direction of the club in any meaningful way…..I took the objective of the idea to be twofold….1) to remove Kenwright if this is what is needed to remove him, given that Moshiri appears to be incapable and this could be through the supporters trust. If a Kenwright wanted an inflationary price for his shares abI’ve market value, it would put to bed the ‘world‘s biggest blue’ bull sh1t and 2) to possibly get a trust seat on the Board….which would be more effective than the token fan advisory board currently in place which is mainly a regulatory requirement and a PR tool for the club. The general way it was communicated was that this would be way towards saving the ‘soul of the club’. That was my take anyway.
 
roydo said:
If you could just basically outline why buying Kenwrights shares by the fans, stops an owner just keeping him, I am all ears.

I am not an apologist, I just dont get why an owner cant appoint anyone he wants.
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And we stress that point.
 
Blue peter said:
Im not sure the idea proposed was to influence the general direction of the club in any meaningful way…..I took the objective of the idea to be twofold….1) to remove Kenwright if this is what is needed to remove him, given that Moshiri appears to be incapable and this could be through the supporters trust. If a Kenwright wanted an inflationary price for his shares abI’ve market value, it would put to bed the ‘world‘s biggest blue’ bull sh1t and 2) to possibly get a trust seat on the Board….which would be more effective than the token fan advisory board currently in place which is mainly a regulatory requirement and a PR tool for the club. The general way it was communicated was that this would be way towards saving the ‘soul of the club’. That was my take anyway.
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