Bill Kenwright

[Tom Hughes]

Do you know if the 52 shares came from one or multiple sources ? It's understandable that small shareholders might dump their shares because they are hacked off with EFC . The odd thing is who would buy a small block of shares which gives no power or voting rights .

Someone will know who the buyer/sellers are.

 

[efcste97]

There should be absolutely not be a minutes applause. Why as a fanbase and club should we want to celebrate a man who very nearly ran us into administration, let Russian gangsters into the boardroom and outright slandered supporters by inventing false assault accusations?! It would be like the RS wanting to honour Hicks and Gillette, how do you think that would go down?

He was a stain on this football club and the quicker he's forgotten about entirely the better. A big public applause like that before a match is essentially saying 'thank you' to him. Thank you?! After all of the above? It would be head-shakingly depressing, just like it was when people stood up and applauded his smug, lying grid back in 2011. I'm going tomorrow and if such a thing is planned then I'll be heading to the bogs.

It's been a week now, those of us who refrained for a bit to give his loved ones time to grieve, and have watched and listened to the tributes, should be able to state our view again now. It is not immoral/insensitive to want nothing to do with honouring this man.

Some of you live in a fantasy land. I disliked Kenwright more than anyone, he overstayed his welcome by at least 10 years. Saying that, I still think the club should respect a man who played a massive part in our history whether that be good or bad. It's called respect, you're seriously mad and quite frankly out of touch if you think a club like ours wouldn't want to show respect to the chairman of 25+ years. It would be terrible optics (considering every other pl club is showing their respect inc the RS) Also there's a lot of people within the club, players, staff, who actually liked Kenwright.

Simply don't clap if you don't like him, tbh I will not be clapping. I don't get a big nark on though and start saying their shouldn't be a minute applause for the fella who was running the club for decades.

 

[Tom Hughes]

When I bought my single share some years ago there were only 35,000 . Now there are 135,000 yet the value per share has risen when you might have expected it to fall - irrespective of the chaos of the past few years .

Yes, football's stock generally has risen massively since then and availability has pretty much only been amongst a small percentage of the original cache, as the bulk was tied up by Moshiri and his personal re-issue. Feels a bit like they're probably artificially high now for some reason...

 

[BNJ1878]

Simply don't clap if you don't like him, tbh I will not be clapping. I don't get a big nark on though and start saying their shouldn't be a minute applause for the fella who was running the club for decades.

Exactly that.

Personally I think most will be too upset after seeing Ashley Young in the starting line up and the whole thing will be a blur.

 

[EFCPaul]

Some of you live in a fantasy land. I disliked Kenwright more than anyone, he overstayed his welcome by at least 10 years. Saying that, I still think the club should respect a man who played a massive part in our history whether that be good or bad. It's called respect, you're seriously mad and quite frankly out of touch if you think a club like ours wouldn't want to show respect to the chairman of 25+ years. It would be terrible optics (considering every other pl club is showing their respect inc the RS) Also there's a lot of people within the club, players, staff, who actually liked Kenwright.

Simply don't clap if you don't like him, tbh I will not be clapping. I don't get a big nark on though and start saying their shouldn't be a minute applause for the fella who was running the club for decades.

Because he nearly ran the club out of existence. We're staring down the barrell of a 12 point deduction for breaching the rules, likely a nailed on relegation sentence. If we go down in our current state administration or worse is essentially what will happen.

He lied too and about supporters frequently purely to save his own skin. It was only over largely relatively small things (selling players, club appointments, stadium moves, etc) until January this year. That's when he overstepped the line to the point that I and many others no longer had any respect for him as a man, forget his role as a football club chairman. Accusing his critics of assaulting DBB, in what has been shown since to almost certainly be a case of fake news, all to try and slander those who were trying to pressure him into stepping down. Disgusting conduct and a window in his soul.

He undoubtedly did good in his life, but none of that stuff is the concern of the average match-going Evertonian who wants the club to take itself and to be taken seriously as a sporting institution. If people want to honour him then do it in a different setting, not right before the club he caused catastrophic damage too is about to play.

 

[efcste97]

Because he nearly ran the club out of existence. We're staring down the barrell of a 12 point deduction for breaching the rules, likely a nailed on relegation sentence. If we go down in our current state administration or worse is essentially what will happen.

He lied too and about supporters frequently purely to save his own skin. It was only over largely relatively small things (selling players, club appointments, stadium moves, etc) until January this year. That's when he overstepped the line to the point that I and many others no longer had any respect for him as a man, forget his role as a football club chairman. Accusing his critics of assaulting DBB, in what has been shown since to almost certainly be a case of fake news, all to try and slander those who were trying to pressure him into stepping down. Disgusting conduct and a window in his soul.

He undoubtedly did good in his life, but none of that stuff is the concern of the average match-going Evertonian who wants the club to take itself and to be taken seriously as a sporting institution. If people want to honour him then do it in a different setting, not right before the club he caused catastrophic damage too is about to play.

Agree with everything in relation to his absolute mismanagement of the club and lies. But do you seriously think there shouldn't be a minute silence/applause? and are you surprised there is going to be one? If you are surprised you're simply delusional. Like I said every other pl club has showed their respect, so will we.

 

[Goodisongang]

But do you seriously think there shouldn't be a minute silence/applause?

yes.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

If you're going tonight then please act respectfully to the 1 minute silence/applause/whatever tribute the club has planned

Firstly, it's just a considerate way to behave

Secondly, the usual suspects will be sharpening their knives looking for an excuse to run a "Everton fans ruin tribute" hit piece, so please be smart and don't give them any ammunition

 

[EFCPaul]

Agree with everything in relation to his absolute mismanagement of the club and lies. But do you seriously think there shouldn't be a minute silence/applause? and are you surprised there is going to be one? If you are surprised you're simply delusional. Like I said every other pl club has showed their respect, so will we.

A minute's silence I wouldn't have an issue with, it's a classy thing you can do without having to feel like you're paying tribute to someone.

An applause would be a joke.

 

[SJB]

A minute's silence I wouldn't have an issue with, it's a classy thing you can do without having to feel like you're paying tribute to someone.

An applause would be a joke.

You could do your minute's silence when people do the minutes applause then?

 

[BlueToff]

Unless you knew him very well (and perhaps even then), I'm not sure how you can judge to make that separation. In any case, surely attributes such as being a serial liar are personality traits of "the man" not just his MO as chairman.

I happen to work with someone who did know him more than most - myself included.

I do know that as a person, he was very well thought of.

As a Chairman, he had some good points, but - in the last decade especially - a lot of bad, and he far outstayed his welcome.

Also, my general point was it costs nothing to show a bit of respect to someone who has passed away and their family. He wasn't an evil person. He was misguided in his leadership and held on far too long, to everyone's detriment. But, if you've got half a brain cell and are a decent person, you should be able to distinguish between the two - that was my point.

 

[BlueToff]

A minute's silence I wouldn't have an issue with, it's a classy thing you can do without having to feel like you're paying tribute to someone.

An applause would be a joke.

I feel for the club here though.

Because a minute's silence, you'll probably get some ted booing or shouting. And while I can't say they'd be wrong to have those feelings about BK as a chairman, there's a time and a place and it wouldn't be then.

A minute's applause - while I echo your sentiment - at least covers that up.

We'll see.

At the end of the day he's gone now, and if anything it's one less factor for the fanbase to get angry about. Move on and unite behind trying to get the club back to where it belongs and against adversity.

The Premier League is attempting to inflict much more damage on Everton than Bill Kenwright tried to do.

 

[bcblue1878]

I’m wasn’t a Kenwright fan but Jesus Christ the applause (if it is one) would be to celebrate his life and mark his passing not ‘thank him’ for what he did or didn’t do for the club

It’s more than likely going to be a silence anyway imo

As we all know the problem with “a silence” is it won’t be, and I reckon it would have to be cut short. For some very long standing and well documented reasons, including more recently headlock gate” BK became a very divisive figure! There will undoubtedly be shouting and booing, and even if it’s only a tiny minority, that noise will echo round Goodison and be picked up easily by the media! The likes of Holt and his mates in the press/Sky etc will lap it up, use it and weaponise it against the fan base!
A round of applause, for any one who wants to is I reckon the way to go!

 

[degsy]

You could do your minute's silence when people do the minutes applause then?

This.
If it's a silence - then be silent.
If it's applause and you don't agree - then don't applaud.

But above all don't give the Everton haters anything to work with.

 

[Tom Hughes]

I happen to work with someone who did know him more than most - myself included.

I do know that as a person, he was very well thought of.

As a Chairman, he had some good points, but - in the last decade especially - a lot of bad, and he far outstayed his welcome.

I also know several people who knew him. As I said previously, I'm not sure or entirely convinced of the relevance.

The point is, his lies and misdemeanours as chairman are too numerous and well-documented and incidentally stretch long beyond "the last decade"...... that's the only real context most of us can speak of with certainty.