Bill Kenwright

[DychesHoof]

Poke a stick and I’ll shove it right back. A Blue has gone, he was not a good chairman, we won nothing, but he’s dead. At least have the decency to mourn one of our own…..l

Mourn him?? Very old man who lived a great life who I didn't know. We are still trying to get everton off life support thanks to him.

I won't mourn him because he claimed to be a great blue while almost killing the club and profiting greatly at the same time

Sad for his family. Not remotely sad for our club. It might help us survive

 

[Yarrgh]

He's gone.

I have never met Bill Kenwright so I don't know him personally , I do have sympathy for his friends and family and appreciate it must be a difficult time for them .
But we can not rewrite history, he was a disaster as a chairman and owner of the club and should always be remembered as such.
Any suggestion of naming any part of the new ground after him should be vetoed immediately as it is just a reward for failure.
Everton existed long before Bill Kenwright so let's forget him and move on

Forget who?

 

[Yarrgh]

Even in death he's pushing his poisonous agenda and dividing Blues.

Turning it into an us vs them.

Odious toad.

Leaving out the odious toad bit will have everyone with a modicum of reason agreeing with you, even those that seem to think that the dead should not he spoke ill of, in case it upsets their family or friends.

Whatever good he did, and it appears he did do good, his legacy at Everton should be that we reverse the decline under his "stewardship" and never allow such poor leadership to persist so long again.

 

[GoldenToffee]

Does anybody know if he was buried or cremated? Genuine question.

 

[MikeH72]

I paid absolutely 0% attention to this event because it was of no interest to me, can someone sum up for me what went on? What I’m reading here seems to suggest they turned his funeral into some sort of witch hunt against the fans?

 

[NathDogg]

Close the thread now, or we will keep having these arguments whenever we talk about kenwright.

As I said when he passed, Thoughts with his family and friends, and I will always be a sad when we’ve lost a bluenose, but I also know what he did to our club and how far we fell under his direction, ownership and leadership.

His charity work and how he stood shoulder to shoulder with the hillsborough families are positives and he should be praised for those, but you can’t forget the cack handed way things were ran at the club under him and how he turned on his fellow evertonians near the end.

If he’d have left when moshiri took over I’m certain his legacy would be markedly different and much better than it is.

He’s gone now and the club and fans can move forward together without him being the cause of tension and division.

We’re still not sure who will own us and what’s going to happen with moshiri/777/whoever, and we’ve got the fight of our lives with the corrupt premier league & avoiding relegation, that is not even close to over, so we need to stick together now more than ever.

RIP Bill - evertonian, philanthropist, producer, actor and a very, very bad chairman of our football club.

 

[PhilEFC]

Close the thread now, or we will keep having these arguments whenever we talk about kenwright.

As I said when he passed, Thoughts with his family and friends, and I will always be a sad when we’ve lost a bluenose, but I also know what he did to our club and how far we fell under his direction, ownership and leadership.

His charity work and how he stood shoulder to shoulder with the hillsborough families are positives and he should be praised for those, but you can’t forget the cack handed way things were ran at the club under him and how he turned on his fellow evertonians near the end.

If he’d have left when moshiri took over I’m certain his legacy would be markedly different and much better than it is.

He’s gone now and the club and fans can move forward together without him being the cause of tension and division.

We’re still not sure who will own us and what’s going to happen with moshiri/777/whoever, and we’ve got the fight of our lives with the corrupt premier league & avoiding relegation, that is not even close to over, so we need to stick together now more than ever.

RIP Bill - evertonian, philanthropist, producer, actor and a very, very bad chairman of our football club.

Very well put.

 

[edge]

My views on him are well know as a chairman
But he, is someone's friend, husband dad, ect and has died.
I take no joy in it , and have kept out of the thread.
We should show him some respect
Personally think the tread should go .
As its going to go down the pan.
Likes of myself have nothing much good to say about him. He is gone so no piont saying it anymore.

 

[Drico]

Sad to hear his one sided view, loved Royle as a player and Manager. And as a successful player and to a point manager, won our last trophy, he must realise how far we have fallen and the absolute mess we are in now.

I loved Joe - but even as a manager he was failing well before the time he was accidentally sacked. We got him five years too late. He seemed incapable of halting the slide at the start of 1997.

Fair play to Kenwright. He was some politician. Ran the club like a family - his own family - excluded all others, and propagandised to his chosen few to the extent that legends like Royle and Sharp were captured baubles on his personal mantelpiece.

I don't think it's a coincidence that since his death, Everton seem to be building a new culture. It'll take time, but the old ways - and the old lads, legends and all - must be swept away now as we rebirth the club over the next few years. If ever a club needed to open a window and let the fresh air in, it is Everton.

 

[PKwalnuts]

I take your point however I think this needs to be said to others who have a go at those who disliked his custodianship. When he died I stayed quiet because i felt it wouldn’t be right to have a go.

Along with some nice tributes I read a fair bit of venom on Facebook/X towards those who protested and how ashamed they should be. Respect for opinion works both ways.

It didn’t feel like a football club to me, it felt like a social club who seeks validation and virtue for acts and comments for things that had little to do with being a football club never mind one that competes for trophies. All the while a small circle benefit from that and anyone who opposed it was seen as disruptive and shamed into feeling so.

Why should I support a custodian because a boxer was helped in getting a role in a film and given a free pass into the training ground and on match days?

It says a lot that people like Tim Cahill talk about a great legacy without actually detailing what that is and the majority of tributes seem to revolve around what a passionate fan he was because when it comes down to it the club didn’t achieve anything significant under his term and fell down the pecking order along with it in terms of relevance and success. It all felt insincere to me mate. It’s not what I like Everton to be.

Really well put that mate

 

[PKwalnuts]

You’d think he’s the only person ever to die the amount we’re dragging this out.

Agreed. Been better blues and better servants that haven't had the attention. Time to close this thread.

 

[Drico]

And, by the way, before anybody takes umbrage at the idea that we shouldn't put too much store on the opinions of our legends, was Dixie Dean informing club policy in the 1970s and 1980s? No, because it would have been ridiculous. But that's effectively what having Royle and Sharp inform today's club equates to. And that's what Kenwright sought to do: weaponise legends for his own agenda.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

And, by the way, before anybody takes umbrage at the idea that we shouldn't put too much store on the opinions of our legends, was Dixie Dean informing club policy in the 1970s and 1980s? No, because it would have been ridiculous. But that's effectively what having Royle and Sharp inform today's club equates to. And that's what Kenwright sought to do: weaponise legends for his own agenda.

Nail on head.

 

[Daytripper]

Really well put that mate

Thanks

 

[Cameron Manning]

I take your point however I think this needs to be said to others who have a go at those who disliked his custodianship. When he died I stayed quiet because i felt it wouldn’t be right to have a go.

Along with some nice tributes I read a fair bit of venom on Facebook/X towards those who protested and how ashamed they should be. Respect for opinion works both ways.

It didn’t feel like a football club to me, it felt like a social club who seeks validation and virtue for acts and comments for things that had little to do with being a football club never mind one that competes for trophies. All the while a small circle benefit from that and anyone who opposed it was seen as disruptive and shamed into feeling so.

Why should I support a custodian because a boxer was helped in getting a role in a film and given a free pass into the training ground and on match days?

It says a lot that people like Tim Cahill talk about a great legacy without actually detailing what that is and the majority of tributes seem to revolve around what a passionate fan he was because when it comes down to it the club didn’t achieve anything significant under his term and fell down the pecking order along with it in terms of relevance and success. It all felt insincere to me mate. It’s not what I like Everton to be.

I’d say your post speaks for a lot of Everton fans.