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Bobby Martinez on Talksport now. AMA job.

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He's a dreadful manager. An absolute shambles. I'm sure he's a great guy away from the game and someone that would be brilliant to have an ale with, he's a quite possibly the greatest orator to ever be associated with the club but it doesn't make him good at managing a football club or change the fact that he would regularly prioritise his precious philosophy and his ego over results and the general wellbeing of the club. Anyone saying that we should've kept him longer then we did is mental, he would've had us in relegation dogfights in the championship while getting smacked 5-3 at home to the likes of Luton Town and Rotherham if he'd been given the chance.
 
I am so firmly in the Dav-Ek camp that I will fight you in the street about it. I wake up each morning and perform stretching exercises so that I will be ready to decide this, forevermore. Up the Dav-Eks.

However, I hated him as Everton boss afyer year 1, but loved him as world cup pundit in the USA for 2014.
 
Tommy. said:
Still lingers with me that one, I've posted it on here before at least twice. Brought me tears when I saw it first time round.

As an Everton manager, personality and compassion wise he encompassed everything I could ever want.

When you got to the brass tacks of the matter though he couldn't organise a defence and his ignorance of set pieces was borderline criminal.

Lovely bloke, nothing but time for him but please don't ever come back to manage us.
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This really.
Would rather stick with lampard through this period until we get to new stadium and see what progress we have made.
I think we are heading in the right direction.
With Martinez it felt we were on a downward slide. The longer his imprint was on the club the more we struggled.
The issues of never practicing set prices riled me -
I’m all for playing the beautiful game, but we were never good enough to give up on scoring scrappy goals, or letting them in for that matter. Set pieces could have gave us a handful of goals and been the difference in wins and losses. Probably would have kept him the job.
It showed me that he was a fundamentalist and not pragmatic enough to be a winner.
 

marnie said:
He inherited Moyes defence and that is why his first season was so good. Like you said ..... he bought in to us x
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The Moyes defence aspect was for me pivotal. He inherited a defence that could be relied upon, and it let Martinez's midfield and forward line to thrive.

When you hear about the training Moyes adopted, it was always about knowing your role, repetition, and consistency. Over time, this seeped away with Martinez.
 
Lineker said:
I am so firmly in the Dav-Ek camp that I will fight you in the street about it. I wake up each morning and perform stretching exercises so that I will be ready to decide this, forevermore. Up the Dav-Eks.

However, I hated him as Everton boss afyer year 1, but loved him as world cup pundit in the USA for 2014.
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I'd like to imagine this is actual Gary Lineker, who's hiding in the shadows of GOT, admiring Dave K.

Also yeah Bobby Martin was great as a pundit. Honestly international football suits him - less prep, more wildcard options, best players in every position to pick from...
 
PhilM said:
The Moyes defence aspect was for me pivotal. He inherited a defence that could be relied upon, and it let Martinez's midfield and forward line to thrive.

When you hear about the training Moyes adopted, it was always about knowing your role, repetition, and consistency. Over time, this seeped away with Martinez.
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My favourite part is when we had Jags and Distin as one of the most solid CB partnerships in the league at the time, he came in and decided "you know what will reinvigorate this duo and make them better? Antolin Alcaraz".
 
Cork Evertonian said:
We should have given Bobby one more season. I wanted him gone at the time, but Koeman set us back years. It's only now we're kind of starting to recover, from that infamous 2017 summer transfer window shopping spree!
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4737carlin said:
Yeah that's my point, at the time it was defo the right move but looking back I do think another 12 months wouldn't of hurt
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You know that scene at the end of Braveheart? Well that would have Bobby shouting "PHENOMENAL!!!" just before his entrails ended up in someone's soup after fans got hold of him had he stayed on and lost that final home game.

I don't even think that is a joke...it was that much of a powder keg.
 
Tommy. said:
Lovely bloke, nothing but time for him but please don't ever come back to manage us.
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This.

Very generous with his time when I collared him after training in Dubai. (about 90 mins of chat all things Everton and players in general}

I often wonder would he have been fired if Lukaku had scored one of his many chances in the FA Semi, but it would have only papered over the cracks.

If Funes Mori and Antolin Alcatraz are the defensive solution, we need different questions.
 

heatmeiser said:
Or the even more important question

Dear Booby,

Is it pronounced 'Dave Kay' or 'Dav - eck'?

Thanks x
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I've always been a "Dav - eck" man, myself, but you just know it's supposed to be Dave K. Either way, I enjoy the bitter lemon. He speaks many acidic truths amidst the world-class wind ups.
 
Gwladysstreetlad said:
He's a dreadful manager. An absolute shambles. I'm sure he's a great guy away from the game and someone that would be brilliant to have an ale with, he's a quite possibly the greatest orator to ever be associated with the club but it doesn't make him good at managing a football club or change the fact that he would regularly prioritise his precious philosophy and his ego over results and the general wellbeing of the club. Anyone saying that we should've kept him longer then we did is mental, he would've had us in relegation dogfights in the championship while getting smacked 5-3 at home to the likes of Luton Town and Rotherham if he'd been given the chance.
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That's mighty fine talk for a supporter of a team that amassed the magnificent total of 39 points last season.

If only Roberto had managed to get...oh, I don't know...just off the top of my head....72 points (21 wins out of 38 games) in one season...then he might have some credibility, eh?
 
davek said:
That's mighty fine talk for a supporter of a team that amassed the magnificent total of 39 points last season.

If only Roberto had managed to get...oh, I don't know...just off the top of my head....72 points (21 wins out of 38 games) in one season...then he might have some credibility, eh?
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You know this downward spiral that we've been on for almost a decade now? It was started by your man Martinez when he ripped apart the class team that Moyes built after fluking a single good season with it. We where dreadful in 14-15 and 15-16 despite having a vastly superior team to the garbage we have now. You beat the whole 72 points thing to death years ago and the facts still haven't changed. All it achieved was 5th place. Is that better then now? Sure. But its still not an achievement. Especially when we'd finished 6th the season before under the previous manager anyway and the 5th place finish was followed by two bottom half finishes that we could still well match this season despite being absolutely horrendous. Bad managers can have fluke good seasons. Koeman had one too.
 

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