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Match Thread Brighton v Everton - Sunday 15th October, 13:30

Well?

  • Brighton Win - KOEMAN OUT

    Votes: 119 37.3%

  • Draw - 'SAKE KOEMAN

    Votes: 96 30.1%

  • Everton Win - MAYO ON CHIPS

    Votes: 104 32.6%
  • Total voters
    319
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What an absolute bell end.

Why is he playing with Gueye and Schneiderlin once again?!?! I hope it's not DCL out wide and Rooney up front!
 
Surprise surprise, Snides and Gueyes start again as the boring 2 defensive midfielders system carries on, Davies doesn't start, Niasse got one start to prove himself at least he's is still on the bench. I feel like when I was a kid I really wanted that special present real bad, well that's how I feel about Koeman being sacked I want it real bad.
 
Tubey said:
I don't think it's that he doesn't get on with them personally; just a style clash. I think he's a dour manager who prefers stability over creativity - so anyone with an X factor in their game, like Barkley, Deulofeu, Lookman, and/or anyone who is young and unproven in their consistency, like Kenny, will be given short shrift.

I don't think it's a co-incidence that someone like Calvert-Lewin gets chance after chance, because he's one of those who will do a job over and over again and nothing much beyond that. He's a good player, but he's not one who will change a game.

That's what Koeman wants. The problem with that lies in when you get pedestrian and run out of ideas, like our entire team has.

He's not a risk taker. "The Dutch Moyes" is becoming an increasingly apt way of describing him.
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Except Moyes had a period where his teams played faaarrrr better than anything we've seen in 15 years except for Martinez' first season.
 

Zatara said:
No Kenny or lookman but Cuco on the bench?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????///

2 DMs


I don't want us to lose...I want us to win but is this guy trying to make us lose on purpose???
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Lookman is going to leave in Jan. He's not happy up north.
 

Fansince1988 said:
Surprise surprise, Snides and Gueyes start again as the boring 2 defensive midfielders system carries on, Davies doesn't start, Niasse got one start to prove himself at least he's is still on the bench. I feel like when I was a kid I really wanted that special present real bad, well that's how I feel about Koeman being sacked I want it real bad.
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Is 'real bad' code for 'really badly'?
 
Tubey said:
I don't think it's that he doesn't get on with them personally; just a style clash. I think he's a dour manager who prefers stability over creativity - so anyone with an X factor in their game, like Barkley, Deulofeu, Lookman, and/or anyone who is young and unproven in their consistency, like Kenny, will be given short shrift.

I don't think it's a co-incidence that someone like Calvert-Lewin gets chance after chance, because he's one of those who will do a job over and over again and nothing much beyond that. He's a good player, but he's not one who will change a game.

That's what Koeman wants. The problem with that lies in when you get pedestrian and run out of ideas, like our entire team has.

He's not a risk taker. "The Dutch Moyes" is becoming an increasingly apt way of describing him.
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I see your point, but even the real moyes put in some 'dynamic' players when he could afford it, and tried to attack - Mirallas, Pienaar, Arteta - for instance, and we got lucky with Cahill in his prime, but the issue is also shape and style - if he wants dour, solid players, he still needs a shape to his formation, and he doesn't seem to be getting the best out of them. I think he's got a major identity crisis. He doesn't know if he wants to be like Cruyff and the Dutch - Barcelona style of the 70s - 90s, or the new-age Pep-style football, or the Mourinho approach, or the Klopp approach, and he hasnt got a clue how to progress, while also feeling like Everton is his last chance to have success as a stepping stone to Arsenal, Barca or the Munich type jobs that he craves
 
riddick said:
Except Moyes had a period where his teams played faaarrrr better than anything we've seen in 15 years except for Martinez' first season.
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I think if Koeman goes on long enough we'll have similar periods when everything "clicks" and we'll probably go 10-15 games unbeaten. Honestly.

His track record suggests as much - he had similar torrid spells at Southampton and emerged from them.

But that's good enough for a club like Southampton; not good enough for a club our size.
 
Eggs said:
...again it’s central midfielders or centre forwards playing out wide, which is fine if it works but so far it hasn’t looked remotely like doing so.
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Because we have a manager who is crap mate. Lookman would be seeing minutes at every side in the league bar maybe city and United.

As for Kenny not even making the bench, sooner we sack koeman the better otherwise we will end up losing the best generation of youngsters the clubs produced.
 

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