Can We Now Consider America To Be An Enemy of Western Political Thought ?

Well ?

  • God damn right !

    Votes: 79 71.8%
  • Hell, know !

    Votes: 9 8.2%
  • Supersize Cheeseburger

    Votes: 22 20.0%

  • Total voters
    110
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Better than The Beatles that is. I got asked in Chicago (in 1988) if I knew them and he looked that gobsmacked when I kept a straight face and said I did (I don't but I have since met McCartney a couple of times) that I couldn't then let him down and I kept it going by saying we lived in the same street. I think he thought everyone in Liverpool lives in the same street.
I met a guy from Seattle on a train in Spain once who asked me if I knew his mate who’d visited the UK the previous year.
I was like ‘mate Theres 60 million odd people live there’ and he goes ‘oh right. His name is beanie do you know him’
 
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I disagree to you disagreeing. If that was the case then YOU, the people, could claim back what has been lost just as simply.
It's theaters and stages, performers, actors and audience. You, the people did nothing but acquiesce, walked willingly into fascism, knowingly, but believing it was something else, a cleaner, justifiable fascism. But it had victims, weaker, projected üntermenschen, that took, still take, all the blame.
It's not me pointing the finger, jeez this country, this continent, is in no better state, but don't perpetuate the delusion this was some uprising, a thought inspired revolution. What happened was snake oil being bought, wholesale.
A new religion is born.
Correct

So how are we disagreeing?

People wanted fascism. It wasn't called that, but that's what people wanted. You're right that it'll be WAY too late until they understand what it is they voted for, but there is something broken within large swaths of this country that they believe this is what they wanted.

I ultimately blame right wing media for starting this cult 30+ years ago, which was made much worse in the social media age.

But there was a market for what they were selling.
 

They won't regret a thing until

1) Someone they know personally gets shuffled off to some gulag, or
2) Their bank account runs dry
It's fascinating and horrifying in equal measure, it's as though the trump masses have voted him in on some unspoken understanding where he specifically wont hurt them but will aggressively pursue who they don't like.
Where it gets interesting is him delivering, I never expected him to move so far and so fast this early (granted he's rowed back on quite a bit) but with the rest of the world wised up to his maniacal decision making and his promises meaning nothing, I reckon world leaders simply humour him for the remaining four years and wait for a bit of normality to come back. If the u.s. tears itself to pieces in that time, who is an island full of seals and penguins going to be bothered?
If you don't like fighting, don't pick fights. He wasn't even sworn in and he was taking on Mexico, China, Canada, Denmark (Greenland), Panama, and Europe.
He wants to bring manufacturing back, but it left because americans demanded lower prices (keep this bit in mind) so manufacture jobs were exported to slave labour sweat shop zero human rights countries decades ago. It paid off initially, now the chickens are home to roost, and the price of eggs is through the roof. Groceries, dear groceries people, who's gonna pay? You'll simply not have! Get ready for a depression.
If these can put a wanted jacket on handy andy windsor, why can't something similar be slapped on trump so he's officially barred from the uk? This twit* has a date at the palace with banger digits.
Back to manufacture, you watch they'll be talking up prison labour yet and forcing those they've criminalised and not deported into making their rubbish.
 
It's fascinating and horrifying in equal measure, it's as though the trump masses have voted him in on some unspoken understanding where he specifically wont hurt them but will aggressively pursue who they don't like.
Where it gets interesting is him delivering, I never expected him to move so far and so fast this early (granted he's rowed back on quite a bit) but with the rest of the world wised up to his maniacal decision making and his promises meaning nothing, I reckon world leaders simply humour him for the remaining four years and wait for a bit of normality to come back. If the u.s. tears itself to pieces in that time, who is an island full of seals and penguins going to be bothered?
If you don't like fighting, don't pick fights. He wasn't even sworn in and he was taking on Mexico, China, Canada, Denmark (Greenland), Panama, and Europe.
He wants to bring manufacturing back, but it left because americans demanded lower prices (keep this bit in mind) so manufacture jobs were exported to slave labour sweat shop zero human rights countries decades ago. It paid off initially, now the chickens are home to roost, and the price of eggs is through the roof. Groceries, dear groceries people, who's gonna pay? You'll simply not have! Get ready for a depression.
If these can put a wanted jacket on handy andy windsor, why can't something similar be slapped on trump so he's officially barred from the uk? This twit* has a date at the palace with banger digits.
Back to manufacture, you watch they'll be talking up prison labour yet and forcing those they've criminalised and not deported into making their rubbish.
The bolded is EXACTLY what the situation is

That is exactly what these people voted for, under the auspices of egg prices. Every American on this board knows exactly what I'm talking about. We live among these people every day
 


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