Top 6 maybe, but it would be a dream season for us to get anywhere near top 4.
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Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
They’re both very good managers who proven it over their entire careers. Because Ancelotti lost against him though people went overboard on Bielsa’s genius whilst claiming Ancelotti was past it.
We lost to Bielsa because our players didn't have the guts to match Leeds work rate. It was nothing to do with tactics. We didn't take our chances and weren't willing to dig as deep as them. We are a soft touch and easy to play against. Thats the players responsibility.
Neither am I. This manager is here for the long haul.
But I am extremely frustrated at how we have ruined our good start so quickly. 5 points from 7 after 12 from 4 is just so Everton. At some point we have ditch this serial losers mentality.
You compare our midfielders - and it has to be said Doucoure and Allan are guilty of this though I think they've shown they can do it - to the likes of Chelsea, Leeds etc. We have no ball-carriers. It's a vital necessity for us.
If Richarlison has an off game then that's half of our attack gone, and then that's compounded by missing one of the best full-backs in the world for the next three months.
But Carlo hasn't helped with some daft tactics, either.
all coming together at a bad time
So playing 5 at the back with Davies RWB and Iwobi LWB had nothing to do with us getting beat?
And the players being outworked, a soft touch and easy to play against has nothing to do with the manager?
I'm not happy with either Allan or Doucoure right now. They don't seem to have a clue how to play alongside each other. Allan was good and Doucoure was bad last week. Doucoure was slightly better today but Allan was really bad today.
They have to start taking responsibility for protecting the back 4 and looking after the ball. In the first 30 minutes today, the amount of short or square balls they got wrong today was shocking.
It looks like neither of them can play in a 2 which is extremely frustrating. That was surely the whole point of investing in the midfield, to give us some tactical flexibility. We just can't seem to find consistent midfielders and carry very little goal threat in midfield either.
Being outworked has little to do with managers or tactics no.
Its a players responsibility to empty the tank and match the effort of their opposite number. The system isn't working but effort is a requirement for any system.
It galls me to see an Everton team ran ragged at Goodison by a hungrier team. These players don't understand the standards expected.
gwladysnight
Player Valuation: £10m
The lack of pace has been numbingly obvious for years. The issue is that Carlo has done nothing to address that. To be good at transitions you need pace in midfield. Carlo has Bought Allan, Doucoure and Hamez.
All three are good players but none of them address the issue of pace in central areas.
Yeah but the reason you pay a manager 11 mill a year and tout him as one of the worlds best is to overperform with the squad. If it’s just about the quality of the squad then we may as well have Dunc in charge.
The good/best managers punch above their weight and expectation levels increase. That’s fair enough on my opinion.
People are just questioning that we should probably be doing better and picking up points through excellent tactics/game management. All we’re seeing at the moment is poor tactics, formations and baffling team selections
Stephenlloyd
Player Valuation: £40m
And that’s the problem, A half decent CB is one of our best players.
we will never do anything with him as one of our CB’s
Yes it’s a gamble, whereas putting Tosun on isn’t, we already know he’s crap. I’d sooner take a gamble.
Egil Olsen
Player Valuation: £8m
First, it is not my expectations that Ancelotti should worry about, but those that pay his salary. My expectations are that we end up with around 60 points and that we play as a team with a clear identity. We will lose football matches, but I expect that the times we lose, we do it by playing our own game. As Wilder sa: "I'm not going to applaud, credit or reward the players because they run around. Whatever the supporters do after is up to them but for me it's a normal, natural thing to do and if they do not they will not play ".
I therefore expect Ancelotti to use players who at least manage to comply with this minimum standard. Once this is in place, which should not take too long, one should develop the game phases. How should we act as a team in the defense phase, the attack phase, the transition from defense to attack, attack to defense, etc. This requires continuous practice, and I understand that it will take time. But I feel after a year you should start to see trends, but I do not see it. Possibly it will come eventually, but so far this has disappointed me.
I do not think we should fire Ancelotti, and the club needs stability. On the other hand, I have problems with all the excuses that try to absolve Ancelotti of all responsibility. A number of legitimate questions are raised, and these are about the intensity of our game and the playing pattern. Why does he choose the same players, and give the younger players so little playing time?
Then there is the argument that he is the world's best coach because he has won so much, and we are lucky to have him. Yes, he increases Everton's reputation and he is a legendary coach. But my definition of a very good coach is a coach who makes the team perform far beyond what is expected. So if he is a very good coach, or world class, then it should be no problem to lead Everton to a top 6 position. Or accelerate the process of developing a playing style identity.
But another thesis may be that Ancelotti is not at all the champion coach that everyone thinks, but is a coach who has been lucky to lead the best teams in the world, and has performed as expected. That does not mean he is a bad coach, but he is not the almighty either. But time will tell.
Neiziro
Player Valuation: £25m
It's worth noting that Bielsa has been in charge of Leeds for over 2 years. He's not some new guy on the block who has come in and magically transformed them in the space of a few months. These things take time to implement - Klopp was the same, Guardiola was the same, Frank Lampard, Mourinho at Spurs, you name it. Carlo hasn't even been here a year yet and has only been able to make a couple of signings, I'm confident we will come good given time and backing. Look at how much some players have improved under his tutelage in such a short space of time - DCL, Keane, Richarlison, Coleman and even Iwobi has been playing well lately. He's not immune from criticism, nor is any manager, but ultimately we as fans have to trust his managerial pedigree and knowledge of the game when he makes the decisions he does. Having that unity around the club is a big factor in creating success as well.
I kind of get the feeling we as a fanbase have been so starved of success that we have become very reactionary to a couple of bad results and as such tend to think about wielding the axe sooner than most in a desperate attempt to get back to trophy-winning ways. Ultimately though that approach will never work, ask Watford who have been a club on the decline for the past few seasons. We need to trust the process which, again, will take some time. After all, if we can't make it work with Carlo Ancelotti then what other hope do we have?
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