Catterick or Kendall

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

Harry Catterick for me. Kendall was a great player and Coach in his own right. The old days 60’s and 80’s hope we return to these great times at Bramley Moore.

 

[Bluebonic]

Catterick for pure football, the 80’s side at their peak were comparative sloggers compared to the 69/70 side. However, the 80’s side was more adaptable and I think Howard was the better tactician.

 

[bcblue1878]

Purely based on longevity I’d probably go for Catterick although he did break my 11 year old heart when he sold Alan Ball! League Title in 1963, one of the best FA Cup wins ever in 1966, then that team from 1968 through to 1970 was a joy to watch even as a youngster, and what a privilege to watch The Holy Trinity play!
Howard Kendall will probably be remembered more fondly as he was a cracking player and also a great manager. Two league titles, an FA Cup and the Cup Winners Cup, and Wembley became our second home ground over the years 1984-87, such a shame it all ended like it did. If not for the European ban that 1985 title winning side would have gone on to win the European Cup and it might be be a slightly different answer to the thread question!

 

[PSB1]

Catterick - with a couple of resservations. He was shy / contemptuous of the media which allowed motor gob Shankly a free hit at establishing his mid sixties team of robots as the one club in Liverpool. He also was part of the decision to let Bally go, which was an act of pure self harm on the part of the club.

But for graceful, effective football, the likes of Scott, Vernon, Young, B H K and Labone were aristocrats.

 

[davids]

Without Catterick, there's no Kendall.

 

[Lord Byron]

My dad took me to my first game in 69/70 when I was 9. He called me Harry Catterick because I was obsessed with Everton.

As people have said the 69/70 team was great to watch.

The players knew when John Moores was at Bellefield as it was the only times Catterick would be on the training pitch!

I think they were both great managers but Howard was more of a coach than Harry.

I will never understand why HC sold Alan Ball to Arsenal. Bally was my favourite!

So for selling Alan Ball, I would have to give my vote to Howard.

 

[Cameron Manning]

Both of these legends outside of Evertonians seem to be very underrated manager by the wider footballing public.

I think Catterick can boast more accumulated points in the 60's, than his contemporizes like Busby, Shankly and that corrupt cheat Don Revie.

Two legendary managers but due to the European trophy i give the nod to Howard here. We were about to embark on a dynasty period of success in both England and Europe, but them lot across the park ruined it all for us sadly!

I know that people losing their lives is the bigger issue and football is very trivial in such circumstances, but i'll always be bitter towards them for the events of May 29th 1985 and their subsequent whitewashing and lack of accountability for it over the past 40 years.

I think the media didn’t take to Harry because he mostly shunned them but in my opinion he was as good a manager as most of them at that time and better than some of them ——If he had courted publicity he would have got the appreciation he deserved.

 

[Bluebonic]

I think the media didn’t take to Harry because he mostly shunned them but in my opinion he was as good a manager as most of them at that time and better than some of them ——If he had courted publicity he would have got the appreciation he deserved.

The problem with the Catt was that he would often give them misleading stories and make fools of them. He deffo drove them sobbing into the open arms of Shankly.

 

[Cameron Manning]

The problem with the Catt was that he would often give them misleading stories and make fools of them. He deffo drove them sobbing into the open arms of Shankly.

Yes Shankly, he courted the press —hence his nick name “ Fish and Chips “ never out of the bleedin’ papers!

 

[Cameron Manning]

My dad took me to my first game in 69/70 when I was 9. He called me Harry Catterick because I was obsessed with Everton.

As people have said the 69/70 team was great to watch.

The players knew when John Moores was at Bellefield as it was the only times Catterick would be on the training pitch!

I think they were both great managers but Howard was more of a coach than Harry.

I will never understand why HC sold Alan Ball to Arsenal. Bally was my favourite!

So for selling Alan Ball, I would have to give my vote to Howard.

Howard didn’t have to coach once he appointed Colin Harvey! Ball was his own biggest enemy with his temperament and that was the main reason he was sold — kicking off at training sessions, criticising his own team mates and questioning their ability—— I loved Bally and missed him after he was sold but understood the reason as well as being good business money wise.

 

[Sharpies volley]

I thought the Cats teams were great but should have won more and they bottled it on numerous occasions and I thought that was down to his management style. Howard's term was much shorter but won just as much as the Cats. His management style is legendary. My vote goes to Howard.

 

[Joey66]

Without Catterick, there's no Kendall.

Reading a book he stood in an old mac & wearing glasses not to be recognised watching a very young Kendall for months before signing him ... Shankly just thought by word of mouth it was a formality he was having Kendall as back then Preston & Liverpool were close - Preston was a feeder club for the other lot plus ex player Gordon Milne was a coach for Preston -


Shankly was fuming when HK chose EFC

 

[Joey66]

Howard didn’t have to coach once he appointed Colin Harvey! Ball was his own biggest enemy with his temperament and that was the main reason he was sold — kicking off at training sessions, criticising his own team mates and questioning their ability—— I loved Bally and missed him after he was sold but understood the reason as well as being good business money wise.

Harry should have given the Captaincy to HK as Bally became far too disruptive as you state - no need to sell him ....

 

[degsy]

My old fella always says the season before 1968/69 the football was even better,just a year later they realised what they had to do to win it

This.

Having seen both
1970 / 1985 = same same but different
In horse racing terms - a deadheat after a photo
Change the metaphor to snooker though and I score it...
1970; 20 frames. 1985; 21 frames
1970 would score more big 100+breaks
1985 would win the closer black ball games 57-59.

Who would I go and watch in my De Lorean - 1970
Who would I want playing for my life - 1985...they hated to lose just that little bit more