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Chelsea v Everton. 22nd Feb at 12.45.

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navidson said:
Playing devils advocate a little maybe - Just feels like if he's even half as good as the media tells us he is - then he'd be the first name on the teamsheet every week.

If he can't dislodge Osman from the first team, I don't know how bright his star is going to shine in the future - He's not a 16 year old kid - He's an adult, professional footballer
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He's recently come back from injury though. Martinez said himself a week ago that he's still feeling pain in his foot when pushing off. Were you not impressed with his performances prior to that?

moosed said:
No, he really is gash when he starts. He's best coming off bench.

Do I think Martinez is a great manager ? Dunno yet, way too early to say.
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Osman started the game v Spurs very well actually.
 
Baines' left foot said:
He's recently come back from injury though. Martinez said himself a week ago that he's still feeling pain in his foot when pushing off. Were you not impressed with his performances prior to that?



Osman started the game v Spurs very well actually.
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Very well = missing 3 great chances with awful weak shots ? He was average after the first 8 or so mins where he should have scored but didn't
 
Furey1878 said:
He's already dislodged him from it, several times.

If you've been watching us this season, you know just how good Barkley is and can go on to be.

Don't knee jerk because he doesn't start every game.
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I'm not knee jerking - I want Barkley to start every game when fit - When he doesnt start I feel it weakens us - If he's not fit he shouldnt be taking a space on the bench
 

navidson said:
Playing devils advocate a little maybe - Just feels like if he's even half as good as the media tells us he is - then he'd be the first name on the teamsheet every week.

If he can't dislodge Osman from the first team, I don't know how bright his star is going to shine in the future - He's not a 16 year old kid - He's an adult, professional footballer
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It's his first season for us..
Chill the fudge out...
He's an adult, professional footballer?
Erm.. Have you seen his interviews mate?
Just because he wasn't a 16 year old Wayne Rooney break through doesn't mean he cannot be a young bright star!
 
NilSatis1878 said:
Nope, I'm afraid you're wrong..
Here's a good question,
Do you think Martinez is a great manager?

If the answer is yes, like it should be..
Then why does a great manager start a dreadful player and bring him on game after game..
He adds things to the game that you're clearly not looking out for..

I'm also someone who kicks off at him from time to time when he has a lifeless shot or does something stupid but you just can't deny that he obviously offers Martinez a lot in terms of how he wants the team to play that we/you are unaware of
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moosed said:
Very well = missing 3 great chances with awful weak shots ? He was average after the first 8 or so mins
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At least he got in to those positions. The shots fell to him and no one else.

I'm not a massive fan of Osman but the level of criticism he gets is a bit unfair. Barkley seems almost exempt from criticism on here. The fact is that at this moment in time Osman is a better option than Barkley.
 
navidson said:
Playing devils advocate a little maybe - Just feels like if he's even half as good as the media tells us he is - then he'd be the first name on the teamsheet every week.

If he can't dislodge Osman from the first team, I don't know how bright his star is going to shine in the future - He's not a 16 year old kid - He's an adult, professional footballer
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I see it as Martinez fully utilising his squad to try and minimise burnouts and injuries.

Barkley has just been out for a while.
 
Furey1878 said:
What about his Volley that forced Lorice into a class save?

Ossie had a good game vs Spurs. Shame about the result.
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Yes that was his one decent attempt, the three others were classic Oscan.

He drifted out of that game badly after the opening few mins

Anyway hopefully I'm wrong and he smashes it....
 

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