CLUB NOTES: Man City

[neonleon]

Name: Man City

UNDER THE SHEIKS:[/B] Man Shitty

Nickname: Citizens

UNDER THE SHEIKS: Mercenaries

League Position Under Normal Circumstances: Relegated, then bounce back. Classic yo-yo team, not good enough for the premier league but too good for the championship.

UNDER THE SHEIKS: Contenders for a top four spot and indeed world domination if they had even a scooby doo what they were doing with all that money. As is they'll probably scrape a UEFA cup spot in 5 - 7 th spot.

Legend: Colin Bell

UNDER THE SHEIKS: whoever they spend the most money on that week.

Kind of Striker they attract UNDER THE SHEIKS: Adebayor, Robinho, Tevez ( a more loyal, uninterested in financial gain cohert of players you'll not find)

Kind of Striker they'd currently attract under normal circumstances (i.e by the size of club they REALLY are): Paul Dickov.

Respect amongst football fans: Quite high. The fans were known as loyal real football fans from a proper working class club with local community roots. They had a sense of humour. They hated United. They were in short, well respected.

UNDER THE SHEIKS: Classless ******s. The rich spoilt kid going round ruining other clubs by offering to double players wages via agents behind the backs of clubs. Unwilling to make it through hard work and a long term strategy they simply buy what they want with little thought to strategy or long term implications. They are basically using money and wages to cheat the system. The fans now perceive this as jealousy because they are now a big club, but anything they win will be defacto forfeit. And of course, they probably won't win anything anyway because they're ******* City.

result against everton: usually a 6 point banker, home and away.

UNDER THE SHEIKS: ditto.

amount of trophies won in last thirty years: none

UNDER THE SHEIKS in the last two years: none

likelihood of winning anything next year: Come on its CITY.

 

[Muggins]

Name: Man City

UNDER THE SHEIKS:[/B] Man Shitty

Nickname: Citizens

UNDER THE SHEIKS: Mercenaries

League Position Under Normal Circumstances: Relegated, then bounce back. Classic yo-yo team, not good enough for the premier league but too good for the championship.

UNDER THE SHEIKS: Contenders for a top four spot and indeed world domination if they had even a scooby doo what they were doing with all that money. As is they'll probably scrape a UEFA cup spot in 5 - 7 th spot.

Legend: Colin Bell

UNDER THE SHEIKS: whoever they spend the most money on that week.

Kind of Striker they attract UNDER THE SHEIKS: Adebayor, Robinho, Tevez ( a more loyal, uninterested in financial gain cohert of players you'll not find)

Kind of Striker they'd currently attract under normal circumstances (i.e by the size of club they REALLY are): Paul Dickov.

Respect amongst football fans: Quite high. The fans were known as loyal real football fans from a proper working class club with local community roots. They had a sense of humour. They hated United. They were in short, well respected.

UNDER THE SHEIKS: Classless ******s. The rich spoilt kid going round ruining other clubs by offering to double players wages via agents behind the backs of clubs. Unwilling to make it through hard work and a long term strategy they simply buy what they want with little thought to strategy or long term implications. They are basically using money and wages to cheat the system. The fans now perceive this as jealousy because they are now a big club, but anything they win will be defacto forfeit. And of course, they probably won't win anything anyway because they're ******* City.

result against everton: usually a 6 point banker, home and away.

UNDER THE SHEIKS: ditto.

amount of trophies won in last thirty years: none

UNDER THE SHEIKS in the last two years: none

likelihood of winning anything next year: Come on its CITY.

Spot on.

You should of pm'd this to Gary Cook (on here)

I can't believe we debated with him when really, your post pretty much says it all...

 

[Cena]

Although i like your post, City will definatly be league champions within 3 years at the most.

 

[neonleon]

Although i like your post, City will definatly be league champions within 3 years at the most.

the only thing definite that infinite money brings is that they'll have some of the better players in the world and some of the best managers/coaches. This should lead to them being there or thereabouts when it comes to winning the league.

There are no guarantees though. If anyone can **** it up its City.

 

[Phil Neville Superstar]

Although i like your post, City will definatly be league champions within 3 years at the most.

I beg to differ. It takes more than money to win leagues.

 

[neville]

Name: Man City

UNDER THE SHEIKS:[/B] Man Shitty

Nickname: Citizens

UNDER THE SHEIKS: Mercenaries

League Position Under Normal Circumstances: Relegated, then bounce back. Classic yo-yo team, not good enough for the premier league but too good for the championship.

UNDER THE SHEIKS: Contenders for a top four spot and indeed world domination if they had even a scooby doo what they were doing with all that money. As is they'll probably scrape a UEFA cup spot in 5 - 7 th spot.

Legend: Colin Bell

UNDER THE SHEIKS: whoever they spend the most money on that week.

Kind of Striker they attract UNDER THE SHEIKS: Adebayor, Robinho, Tevez ( a more loyal, uninterested in financial gain cohert of players you'll not find)

Kind of Striker they'd currently attract under normal circumstances (i.e by the size of club they REALLY are): Paul Dickov.

Respect amongst football fans: Quite high. The fans were known as loyal real football fans from a proper working class club with local community roots. They had a sense of humour. They hated United. They were in short, well respected.

UNDER THE SHEIKS: Classless ******s. The rich spoilt kid going round ruining other clubs by offering to double players wages via agents behind the backs of clubs. Unwilling to make it through hard work and a long term strategy they simply buy what they want with little thought to strategy or long term implications. They are basically using money and wages to cheat the system. The fans now perceive this as jealousy because they are now a big club, but anything they win will be defacto forfeit. And of course, they probably won't win anything anyway because they're ******* City.

result against everton: usually a 6 point banker, home and away.

UNDER THE SHEIKS: ditto.

amount of trophies won in last thirty years: none

UNDER THE SHEIKS in the last two years: none

likelihood of winning anything next year: Come on its CITY.

Not from my perspective

Bunch of Munich singing pricks from Stockport

 

[BlueTak]

Although i like your post, City will definatly be league champions within 3 years at the most.

This.

It's gonna happen sooner or later.

 

[emdeell]

I beg to differ. It takes more than money to win leagues.

But you get there eventually, like Chelsea did.

 

[Phil Neville Superstar]

But you get there eventually, like Chelsea did.

Prior to their takeovers, Chelsea were a better team than Man City were though.

 

[It's_Just_Not_Cricket]

Jack Walker's Blackburn are another case in point. I suppose Real Madrid highlight that money does not equal pots at the end of the season. But even Manure have spent big to win leagues....Rooney, Rio, Ronaldo, Berbatov, Carrick etc all came with huge price tags!

 

[zed]

can`t some people move on - we got 24mil for lescott= f***ing good business and thank you very much - so what if man city are loaded and some fans want to crow and btw we are a monster of a club to the lower league clubs we buy players from and the reality is- thats life - speshly in the cut throat world of business

 

[Hellerad]

Unless they settle on a consistent core squad Shitty will always lack cohesion and chemistry . . . and decent looking kits.
And with the egos they attract, they are going to go through coaches like Howard goes through head wax.

 

[nesky]

So how do City compete with the established elite clubs otherwise then? Tell me that, in fact, I'd really love to hear how City are meant to compete for trophies any other way. And don't start this nonsense about building a team with hard work, good management, etc. etc. The era for that ended when the Premiership was introduced, if not before, when Liverpool won their 4th European Cup.

The reality is, as I've been saying for ages, United are like Coca Cola, and Liverpool like Pepsi. By that I mean, they both cornered large chunks of global fanbase by being "first to market", to coin a corporate term. United were the FIRST English club to win the European Cup and thereby secured a massive, inter-generational (i.e,. father-son) fanbase. Even though Liverpool came along and won an astounding 4 European Cups afterwards in the 70s & 80s, that still wasn't enough to overhaul United's huge supporter base; it was only enough to take a respectable second largest chunk, a portion of the market they retain to this day.

What that all means is that when the Premiership came along, the clubs with the largest fanbases - i.e. Liverpool & Man Utd - would be in an enviable position to reap the financial rewards of their large global fanbases. United invested their ensuing income wisely thanks to a shrewd manager; Liverpool have, for the most part, squandered theirs, with only a UEFA Cup and a few FA Cups beyond the singularly outstanding achievement of the 2005 Champions League win. That Chelsea and Arsenal have done so well in that time too is directly related to heavy investment in the former and a healthy footballing setup in the latter around the time the EPL was founded, enabling Arsenal to regularly enter the CL and collect the revenues from that and the concomitant monies from being globally marketed as a CL regular.

Of course, what the EPL and CL has boiled down to is a closed clique of 4 mega-funded clubs most seasons. So how on earth can anyone hope to win silverware in such an environment? As stated, the undecided global fanbase market was cornered decades ago (a la Coke & Pepsi analogy), so no chance of anyone doing a Matt Busby or Bob Paisley and becoming champions of Europe through graft and guile alone and securing fanbase that way; beside, the CL structure is unashamedly rigged to prevent that sort of occurrence ever happening again anyway (the very thought of another Forest-Malmo final would perhaps have Paltini in convulsions). So that leaves massive investment as the only route available to the have-nots who didn't get lucky with a Busby or a Paisley when the markets were still there to be won over.

United fans and Liverpool fans have had much, much more than their fair share of glory in the past, and I have no problem in giving credit where due in those successes. And Everton too, with more titles than Chelsea, Spurs and City combined, have undoubtedly been a relatively well favoured club. But please, don't cry "no fair!" when City, so starved and emaciated of success, so laughed at and reviled, so just there to be the whipping boys for oh so long, when they splash out their new-found wealth to try to build a side to right decades of utter misery and despair. Life is short but football moves slowly. People are born, live and die following a club - sometimes a big club, like Newcastle or Manchester City - without ever seeing their team win a single major trophy. To me, that is deplorable and desperately unfair. So please don't begrudge City their moment of hope, and don't fabricate a moral high ground against their spending where one doesn't objectively exist. Besides, we all know that we would do exactly the same thing with the money. And there wouldn't be so much as a whimper about it on forums like this.

 

[HirsuteBlue]

Like where Carcetti gets told he cut the line.
How did ManUtd make the top? They spent on a stadium and corporate facilities, and have reaped the benefits year on year. They got a great Jock to step in with a vision and a youth setup that meant not spending tens on millions in the early 90's when the record fee was a couple of mill (Cottee £2.2) but it also meant the kids that came through knew and liked each other.
Liverpool have not had more than a breaths worth of success since United elbowed their way to top spot, they were built on solid football roots, and managers that knew the game, not johnny come lately hand in the till types looking for a bung.
The 'Emirates' will not last much longer, it is almost payed for, and when the super stingey Wenger is unleashed with a few quid, the new power in WORLD FOOTBALL will be Arsenal. At the rate the new rich City get through owners, chairmen, managers, players, fans, i'd be surpries if their core fanbase live as close as the Kopites do in Norway and Finland.
Global fanbase? Have to be pushed by Sky and the like for that, all the shirt sales in the world mean nothing if the snide name on the back is not a team player. Galacticos? No thanks, give me a player with something to prove, not an ego that can laugh at the manager.
And no, maybe some clubs would like City's position, but they cried foul when Chelsea threw Roubles around, and SWP went down there. Now it is ok though because they have a few Shekels? Hypocrisy, plain and simple.

 

[Allezfan]

So how do City compete with the established elite clubs otherwise then? Tell me that, in fact, I'd really love to hear how City are meant to compete for trophies any other way. And don't start this nonsense about building a team with hard work, good management, etc. etc. The era for that ended when the Premiership was introduced, if not before, when Liverpool won their 4th European Cup.

Teams who have been in major cup finals over the last ten years. (Which is competing for trophies by anyones definition.)

Everton, Fulham, Boro, Millwall, Portsmouth, Cardiff, Villa, Tottenham, Wigan, Bolton, Blackburn, Leicester, Southampton, West Ham, Tranmere, and Birmingham.