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Cole Snubs Capello & Ferguson lies to England?

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I get the impression that Capello imparts no more to his players than Eriksson did. Can you imagine sitting in the dressing room? You'd expect that Stuart Pearce relays a lot of the tactical information. The players clearly disagree with the formation and the personnel that he chooses to employ. I think Cole is the only player petulent enough to demonstrate the level of contempt with which Fabio is held. It's hard not to overreact to the 'snub'. Clough or Ferguson would have immediately dropped him. Someone like Robson or Venables would probably have a word with him behind closed doors.

The way in which Capello handled picking the England squad was very poor. It seems like it was a panicked move to try and recall the likes of Scholes and Carragher, especially as he gave them so little notice. Speaking as an Evertonian, it didn't sit well that Baines played in the warm up games, but that Warnock was the one who made the plane to South Africa.

Promoting players from the U21 set up seems like another desperate move. The message appears to be 'here is the next generation that you have been crying out for'. When it inevitably fails, because the players simply aren't ready, he can say 'I gave you what you asked for. I'm not responsible that it didn't work. You don't have the talent.'

There is a generation of players in the age group 24-26 who should now be being blooded. Kieran Richardson was sensational as a left winger when he first made his debut. The fact that he is more than competent as a left back aswell would make him a valuable asset in tournament football. David Bentley, although he might struggle to dislodge Lennon on the right side of midfield for club and country, looked like the natural successor to Beckham when he first made the step up to international football. Micah Richards didn't look out of place when he took over from Gary Neville before Glen Johnson's emergence. These are the sort of players that Capello should be inspecting in the aftermath of the World Cup.

My prediction is that the players just won't perform for Capello, just as they didn't do it for McLaren before him, in the hope that a dismal qualifying campaign will get their message across. We've seen before now how Rooney simply won't participate if he's sulking. Sooner or later, the Italian manager will be walking out of the door with a fat payoff. I can't see him lasting the qualifying campaign myself.
 

As far as not picking players over the age of 28, I mostly agree but would defo consider Zamora. Some quality european defenders just couldn't handle him in the UEFA cup.

There also has to be an emphasis on bringing in more team players. You'd think that after putting someone in the starting lineup just because he's "the man" on the said big club has resulted in spectacular failure after spectacular failure for the past 20 years that something is going to change. The so called "world class" players (Terry, Lamps, Rio, Cole, Gerrard, Rooney, Beckham) have the luxury of mailing in an endless number of shitty matches and their place is never questioned by management or even the fans. Have you ever seen a Lampard goal off a Gerrard pass or vice versa (better yet have you ever seen a shot on goal)?

However the 1st bad match a "fringe" player has and he's banished for life from England. Baines has 2 matches. Played brilliantly in one even though Gerrard hung him out to dry, and didn't play well in the next. Not good enough I guess. Darren Bent never had a chance, never seen or heard of again after 1 match. Meanwhile in the WC, Torres looked like Maradona 86 compared to Rooney's 4 matches. Yet Rooneys starting spot in never questioned.
 
As far as not picking players over the age of 28, I mostly agree but would defo consider Zamora. Some quality european defenders just couldn't handle him in the UEFA cup.

There also has to be an emphasis on bringing in more team players. You'd think that after putting someone in the starting lineup just because he's "the man" on the said big club has resulted in spectacular failure after spectacular failure for the past 20 years that something is going to change. The so called "world class" players (Terry, Lamps, Rio, Cole, Gerrard, Rooney, Beckham) have the luxury of mailing in an endless number of shitty matches and their place is never questioned by management or even the fans. Have you ever seen a Lampard goal off a Gerrard pass or vice versa (better yet have you ever seen a shot on goal)?

However the 1st bad match a "fringe" player has and he's banished for life from England. Baines has 2 matches. Played brilliantly in one even though Gerrard hung him out to dry, and didn't play well in the next. Not good enough I guess. Darren Bent never had a chance, never seen or heard of again after 1 match. Meanwhile in the WC, Torres looked like Maradona 86 compared to Rooney's 4 matches. Yet Rooneys starting spot in never questioned.

agree big time over the darren bent thing. Wasn't he one of the like top 5 goal scorers in europe last year? and to give Heskey who doesn't even start for his club the nod over him is just ridiculous.

still cole is a cvnt for behaving like a child. i would like him dropped too, but that probably won't happen. i also don't understand why baines isn't even being considered for the upcoming friendlies but jagielka is. Jagielka is an excellent player, but Baines has undoubtedly done more to earn a spot last season
 
Bent, Rooney and Agbonlahor were the top English goalscorers, as far as I'm aware. It says a lot that only one of them made the World Cup squad.
 

England has been an exclusive club for the likes of Terry, Lampard, Gerrard and Rooney for far too long. Fringe players tend to be given half an hour in a friendly to stake their claim. Unless they shine immediately, they don't feature again. Take the example of Baines. He admitted that he felt under enormous pressure during the friendlies and that he didn't enjoy the experience. He was more concerned with not making mistakes than getting forward and playing his natural game. International football is a huge step up from the Premier League and it's natural for players to take time to adapt. Newcomers need to know that the manager has faith in them and that an error won't mean the end of their international career.

Even squad players like Lennon, Crouch, Defoe and Wright-Phillips must feel like they've yet to get to grips with playing for England as, even if they play well, they can't get a run in the team.

We need to look at the progress into the full senior side. Too often players will leave the U21 set up and find themselves in the wilderness until they reach their peak at 26 or 27. Players like Jagielka and Rodwell might make the squad by the time the qualifiers come around. Training with established players isn't enough though. Unless they get the chance to show what they can do in a match situation, they will never make the step up. Having a squad of players that the manager has faith in will create competition for places and will be good for England.
 
If it was before the World Cup it would be news.

Who cares about international football now~!

They are all a bunch of dickheads swimming about in their goldfish bowl.
 
I think you guys are missing the point. He obviously didnt mean to 'snub' Capello. Any muppet can see that. Doesn't make him any less of a bell though.
 

England has been an exclusive club for the likes of Terry, Lampard, Gerrard and Rooney for far too long. Fringe players tend to be given half an hour in a friendly to stake their claim. Unless they shine immediately, they don't feature again. Take the example of Baines. He admitted that he felt under enormous pressure during the friendlies and that he didn't enjoy the experience. He was more concerned with not making mistakes than getting forward and playing his natural game. International football is a huge step up from the Premier League and it's natural for players to take time to adapt. Newcomers need to know that the manager has faith in them and that an error won't mean the end of their international career.

I completely agree with you on this, however I don't think this is the managers fault entirely. If a player makes a big mistake the press and even the fans will be shouting for his head, even if it just a friendly.

However as stated in previous posts I don't understand why England's top scorer during qualification (Crouch) was just left on the bench apart from 10 minutes and also the likes of Darren Bent were just Ommitted. I personally think Capello is a great manager, however he hasn't got the courage to make the big moves and drop players such as Rooney, Lampard and Gerrard...as shown with this squad.
 
My take on it

England should be managed by an English Manager end of

Funny how Capello got his no 2 to ask Scholes if he would reconsider

Scholes actually said that if Capello would have asked him in person he may have gone to the World Cup

Robinson retires from England, Wes Brown retires from England

WTF is going
 
My take on it

England should be managed by an English Manager end of

Funny how Capello got his no 2 to ask Scholes if he would reconsider

Scholes actually said that if Capello would have asked him in person he may have gone to the World Cup

Robinson retires from England, Wes Brown retires from England

WTF is going on
 
I completely agree with you on this, however I don't think this is the managers fault entirely. If a player makes a big mistake the press and even the fans will be shouting for his head, even if it just a friendly.

However as stated in previous posts I don't understand why England's top scorer during qualification (Crouch) was just left on the bench apart from 10 minutes and also the likes of Darren Bent were just Ommitted. I personally think Capello is a great manager, however he hasn't got the courage to make the big moves and drop players such as Rooney, Lampard and Gerrard...as shown with this squad.

You're right. Capello is only doing what the majority of England managers have done before him and bowed to pressure from the media. We need a strong manager who will do things his own way. Take the example of Rob Green. Fine, he made a mistake against the USA. It could happen to anyone. If the manager had stood by him, Green might have felt that his worst fear had already been realised and relaxed into his best form for the remainder of the tournament. Having been left out of the squad for the Hungary game, it will be a long way back for him now, just as it was for Carson and Robinson before him. Why should one mistake consign a perfectly able player to the international scrapheap? Errors are part of football.

I think that part of the problem with Crouch is the fear that the play will automatically become more direct to take advantage of his aerial ability and that we'll end up missing out midfield. It's actually a fallacy, as Tottenham don't play route one football and Crouch is a talented player with the ball at his feet.

With Darren Bent I think the concern is that the step up will be too much for him and that he'll be out of his depth at that level. Heskey, Crouch, Rooney and Defoe were all included ahead of him because they're experienced internationals. The thing is that Bent won't get the chance to show whether he can do it or not unless he's given the opportunity to find his feet. It might take ten matches for him to gain his confidence and find his shooting boots. He can't be judged on a half hour cameo here and there.

Gerrard, Lampard and Rooney don't need to be dropped neccesarily, but they need to be made aware that they are droppable. Terry, for example, had an utterly abject World Cup. It would do him no harm to realise that his place isn't guaranteed on reputation alone and that, if he doesn't perform, someone like Jagielka will get the chance to stake his own claim for the shirt.
 
I don't think Rob Green should be anywhere near the England WC setup, and his selection in the first game was nothing more than settling on the player that Capello thought wouldn't botch it, and ironically he did. James wasn't chosen for that game because of his gaffe-ish nature, and Hart wasn't because he was too young. It was a short-sighted and gutless pick, imo.

I agree with Robinson, he was forced out on a mistake and it was to the detriment of the squad. He should have been starting in SA imo. Of the three, I would have gone with the boldest choice, Hart. He is the best keeper of the three.
 

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