Computer games.

[longers]

GTA 4 cars were like boats.
I prefer more realistic physics and agree about GTA 5 driving was too arcade, but GTA 4 really overdid it back then.

Some of them were but they still handled far more convincingly than GTA5 and were actually fun to drive with a certain level of skill required to drive them well.

GTA5 undid all this because people moaned about GTA4 cars being too hard to drive

I can't really think of an open world game with better driving physics than GTA4 tbh but i've not played many in recent times bar Cyberpunk and it's god awful center pivot physics.

 

[DualityNSNO]

They do seem to have a pretty short shelf life.

Intel NUC are the best on the market (imo) and have a ridiculous range of specs for what they are. Other than some driver installation issues on some models it's a decent alternative if you're not doing some ridiculous heavy usage on them. A good mate of mine has a "mid-range NUC" and it's going fine for work and browsing/movies/etc., but it does suffer with GPU-intensive anything past streaming, as he's a big dumbo and didn't get one with the better chips.

I've also had success (as in, "it's not died yet for a long while") with some from amazon.de for work and it's been going strong as well.

All that said, wouldn't recommend the lower ones for games obviously

 

[Huyton Layne]

PS5 Pro has been announced and while it does have a pretty impressive spec boost I’m not sure it warrants the ludicrously high price. £700 and it doesn’t come with a disk drive (and they aren’t even including a stand in the box). So you’re looking at more like £800 if you want to play your physical games.

Welcome PlayStation 5 Pro, the most visually impressive way to play games on PlayStation

Features including GPU upgrade, advanced ray tracing, and PlayStation Spectral Super Resolution take players to new heights.

blog.playstation.com

Was hoping to grab the kids a seperate ps5 if demand drove the price down but , at 700, there's no bloody chance

 

[Huyton Layne]

Some of them were but they still handled far more convincingly than GTA5 and were actually fun to drive with a certain level of skill required to drive them well.

GTA5 undid all this because people moaned about GTA4 cars being too hard to drive

I can't really think of an open world game with better driving physics than GTA4 tbh but i've not played many in recent times bar Cyberpunk and it's god awful center pivot physics.

I never got the car thing. I didn't like 4 because SA was amazing and huge and 4 seemed smaller and I wanted the option to let the cousin die as he was a proper knob

Edit: obvs mean early on when he deserves to rather than having him alive causing stress for a whole game just to be allowed to die

 

[carlos21]

Intel NUC are the best on the market (imo) and have a ridiculous range of specs for what they are. Other than some driver installation issues on some models it's a decent alternative if you're not doing some ridiculous heavy usage on them. A good mate of mine has a "mid-range NUC" and it's going fine for work and browsing/movies/etc., but it does suffer with GPU-intensive anything past streaming, as he's a big dumbo and didn't get one with the better chips.

I've also had success (as in, "it's not died yet for a long while") with some from amazon.de for work and it's been going strong as well.

All that said, wouldn't recommend the lower ones for games obviously

Yo duality

 

[Daytripper]

PS5 Pro has been announced and while it does have a pretty impressive spec boost I’m not sure it warrants the ludicrously high price. £700 and it doesn’t come with a disk drive (and they aren’t even including a stand in the box). So you’re looking at more like £800 if you want to play your physical games.

Welcome PlayStation 5 Pro, the most visually impressive way to play games on PlayStation

Features including GPU upgrade, advanced ray tracing, and PlayStation Spectral Super Resolution take players to new heights.

blog.playstation.com

Sony needs a better competitor than Xbox in the higher resolution console space. Complacency leads to things like this. For all Microsoft’s money they have done a terrible job of fulfilling even half of Xbox’s potential. It’s been too easy for Sony for a decade.

 

[stipe]

Sony needs a better competitor than Xbox in the higher resolution console space. Complacency leads to things like this. For all Microsoft’s money they have done a terrible job of fulfilling even half of Xbox’s potential. It’s been too easy for Sony for a decade.

Because Xbox (outside some short period with Xbox 360) pretty much never existed outside America.
UK is only country outside USA where they managed to make some kind of inroads, even that i believe is now weakening.

They also failed to capitalize on relative success of 360, i mean they were trying to promote their Xbox One console in Europe with ability to watch American football, who in God name care for that sport in Europe.
Talk about terrible marketing.

 

[Daytripper]

Because Xbox (outside some short period with Xbox 360) pretty much never existed outside America.
UK is only country outside USA where they managed to make some kind of inroads, even that i believe is now weakening.

They also failed to capitalize on relative success of 360, i mean they were trying to promote their Xbox One console in Europe with ability to watch American football, who in God name care for that sport in Europe.
Talk about terrible marketing.

I know mate which is why I said Sony needs much better competition.

Microsoft are easing out of consoles probably, they are already devaluing Xbox further by releasing more of their own games on PlayStation for a start. It’s all about services and cloud gaming for them.

 

[DualityNSNO]

It’s all about services and cloud gaming for them.

Same for both companies, I think @stipe is right that they failed to do anything with marketing when they should have, now all the people that play the 5 games the PS has swear by it (in mainland Europe obvs) - FIFA, Tekken/SF and, like the other 3 or 4.

The thing for Xbox and Microsoft and why they're focusing on the gamepass more than the Xbox itself is that Gamepass is for also for PC, which is realistically their main market. The whole schtick is "the Windows/Microsoft ecosystem". If they figure out how people can play their Steam games easily - even if it's not literally all but just some of them - they'd start seeing actual waves imo.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Yo duality

Alright Carlos!

 

[carlos21]

Alright Carlos!

Yes I am good tonight mate.

 

[stipe]

I know mate which is why I said Sony needs much better competition.

Microsoft are easing out of consoles probably, they are already devaluing Xbox further by releasing more of their own games on PlayStation for a start. It’s all about services and cloud gaming for them.

I think they kinda accepted their defeat in console hardware market, but they are also enormous publisher (especially after recent purchase of Activision and Call of Duty) so by putting their games on PlayStation there is still a lot of money to be made.

Also they spent ton of money for that Activison purchase so probably big bosses in Microsoft want some return.

 

[DualityNSNO]

I think they kinda accepted their defeat in console hardware market, but they are also enormous publisher (especially after recent purchase of Activision and Call of Duty) so by putting their games on PlayStation there is still a lot of money to be made.

Also they spent ton of money for that Activison purchase so probably big bosses in Microsoft want some return.

Well Actiblizzard can literally crap out the same game wrapped in a new title and make tons of money, so in reality that's a solid investment - they got WoW, Overwatch, Diablo, Starcraft, Warcraft, CoD, etc., those games make millions each currently and most have in-game purchases and shops and all that to take it even further.

In reality what'd be amazing is if there was cross-platform play for more games, but "CoMpEtItIoN Is MoRe ImpOrTanT" so this is only for select titles.

 

[Daytripper]

I think they kinda accepted their defeat in console hardware market, but they are also enormous publisher (especially after recent purchase of Activision and Call of Duty) so by putting their games on PlayStation there is still a lot of money to be made.

Also they spent ton of money for that Activison purchase so probably big bosses in Microsoft want some return.

My problem is they should never have accepted defeat. Their management is terrible, if they had a executive team like Sony or Nintendo who knew their audience in the console space and with all Microsoft’s capital, there is a chance Xbox would of been a better and more successful product.

Terrible leadership, a guy who changes tact and apologies for lack of releases and underwhelming games far more than any other console manufacturer. Over two decades in the business and they are still learning according to him.

Terrible marketing, led by a complete phoney in a man called Aaron Greenberg. Has somehow managed to keep the marketing gig for years .

The funny thing is they were at their best and showing a tiny bit of Xbox potential when a scouser ran the division.

 

[carlos21]

Carlos is getting a new game warhammer space Marine 2 looking forward to it.