Computer games.

[Jacko93]

Rockstar is corporate and horrendous like all the others now. Hopefully GTA 6 lives up to the hype. The original team is basically gone. They were sitting on those shark cards for a good minute. They love it when people lose their accounts. More money for them.

The original team has probably gone through retirement.

 

[ClausThomsen]

Seen a few adverts for the revamped spectrum, used to love my original one and still have a lot of the games in the loft but not the console anymore. Tempted but not sure I can justify the cost for something that probably wouldn’t get used that much.
https://retrogames.biz/products/thespectrum/

Better left as a rose tinted memory I've found. Download an emulator to scratch the itch.

 

[longers]

I understand the amazing graphics and driving experience... But I find driving games incredibly boring. The only recent ones that kept me interested were Forza Horizons with the open world aspect. Track racing is just a bit meh I find..

There is a huge difference between playing casual racing games like Forza or Gran Turismo on a joypad and playing sims like iRacing and AC on a wheel/pedal setup which can replicate the real-life forces a driver feels through a steering column. One is a casual experience lacking in immersion, the other is a very immersive experience that also uses up a lot of physical energy (the motors in today's wheel can put out upto 25nm of force, enough to break your arm or wrists if you're stupid)

These sims exist for people who love motorsport but can't afford to participate in real life, it's the closest thing you can get to real life and whilst it is expensive relative to normal gaming (hardware can cost thousands if you're willing to spend) it's still vastly cheaper than racing cars in real life.

If you don't enjoy motorsport then there is going to be no appeal to you, the same way that if you don't like football there is a strong chance you won't like FIFA.

That said I think if you got to experience sim racing properly and feel how immersive good FFB is you'd change your mind about it being incredibly boring... maybe not enough to want to do it yourself but enough to understand why thousands of people do it as a replacement to real-life motorsport.



On top of that the skills you learn in sim racing genuinely transfer over to real life hence why lots of drivers from numerous series (f1, indycar, WEC, GT3 etc) use them for training or for keeping sharp during the off-season.

TLDR: They are built for motorsport nerds not gamers

 

[Osamabindiesel]

The original team has probably gone through retirement.

It sounded more like they were coerced to leave. They complained about the original team having a frat boy culture. To me it sounds like the team expanded and the workplace became toxic so they left.

 

[The binman chronicles]

There is a huge difference between playing casual racing games like Forza or Gran Turismo on a joypad and playing sims like iRacing and AC on a wheel/pedal setup which can replicate the real-life forces a driver feels through a steering column. One is a casual experience lacking in immersion, the other is a very immersive experience that also uses up a lot of physical energy (the motors in today's wheel can put out upto 25nm of force, enough to break your arm or wrists if you're stupid)

These sims exist for people who love motorsport but can't afford to participate in real life, it's the closest thing you can get to real life and whilst it is expensive relative to normal gaming (hardware can cost thousands if you're willing to spend) it's still vastly cheaper than racing cars in real life.

If you don't enjoy motorsport then there is going to be no appeal to you, the same way that if you don't like football there is a strong chance you won't like FIFA.

That said I think if you got to experience sim racing properly and feel how immersive good FFB is you'd change your mind about it being incredibly boring... maybe not enough to want to do it yourself but enough to understand why thousands of people do it as a replacement to real-life motorsport.



On top of that the skills you learn in sim racing genuinely transfer over to real life hence why lots of drivers from numerous series (f1, indycar, WEC, GT3 etc) use them for training or for keeping sharp during the off-season.

TLDR: They are built for motorsport nerds not gamers

I can imagine racing games would be boring to the casual fan. Like you say they are made for nerds. Just done a quick calc and I've spent £5600 on the hobby so far, not including games.

 

[Jacko93]

I can imagine racing games would be boring to the casual fan. Like you say they are made for nerds. Just done a quick calc and I've spent £5600 on the hobby so far, not including games.

Mate, I used to work with a company. They basically design rides, rollercoasters and that (Ferrari world was one of theirs). Anyway, I Used to go down to Lutterworth to their farm and they had this rig that was absolutely unreal. I think it was nearly £40k of equipment at the time. I used to go for a 1 hour meeting, then spend 4 hours on that. Was my first experience of full VR driving, hydraulic feedback system, fully responsive brake pedals, which bounced on the abs and a huge amount of 6 axis travel that made it feel like you were being affected by Gforce. Was absolutely bonkers. They were using Assetto on that and Grand Turismo. I wish they'd have had Horizon on it.

That's set up, but more modern is what I would spend my first cash of lottery winnings on.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Mate, I used to work with a company. They basically design rides, rollercoasters and that (Ferrari world was one of theirs). Anyway, I Used to go down to Lutterworth to their farm and they had this rig that was absolutely unreal. I think it was nearly £40k of equipment at the time. I used to go for a 1 hour meeting, then spend 4 hours on that. Was my first experience of full VR driving, hydraulic feedback system, fully responsive brake pedals, which bounced on the abs and a huge amount of 6 axis travel that made it feel like you were being affected by Gforce. Was absolutely bonkers. They were using Assetto on that and Grand Turismo. I wish they'd have had Horizon on it.

That's set up, but more modern is what I would spend my first cash of lottery winnings on.

It's a massive rabbit hole alright. Must have been some experience using that equipment!

I didn't think I would ever spend as much as I have, it's just snowballed. My next step would be to stick four actuators on each corner - if they get to a point where the semi decent ones are sub 5k. Then other times I think I'm mad and should just be happy with what I have. Like you say a lottery win is what is required really!

 

[RalphDring]

Better left as a rose tinted memory I've found. Download an emulator to scratch the itch.

That’s a very good point, It is purely sentiment clouding my judgment. Emulator is great shout, thank you.

 

[Jacko93]

It's a massive rabbit hole alright. Must have been some experience using that equipment!

I didn't think I would ever spend as much as I have, it's just snowballed. My next step would be to stick four actuators on each corner - if they get to a point where the semi decent ones are sub 5k. Then other times I think I'm mad and should just be happy with what I have. Like you say a lottery win is what is required really!

GT Ultimate Motion Racing Simulator

www.proracingsimulators.co.uk

 

[The binman chronicles]

GT Ultimate Motion Racing Simulator

www.proracingsimulators.co.uk

That's some machine. Just imagine wheeling that into the front room and hoping the wife doesn't notice...

 

[Rita_Poon]

That's some machine. Just imagine wheeling that into the front room and hoping the wife doesn't notice...

notice? Imagine what she's imagining...

 

[The binman chronicles]

notice? Imagine what she's imagining...

Divorce and getting half of the proceeds of a £50k sim rig, just for starters.

 

[T Bone]

Any good manager games for ps5?

I used to live LMA manager on PS2. Been having nostalgic thoughts. Any suggestions on modern manager games?

 

[davep]

Any good manager games for ps5?

I used to live LMA manager on PS2. Been having nostalgic thoughts. Any suggestions on modern manager games?

Isn't FM on everything nowadays? FM25 supposed to be out in March, tho god knows if it will be/what it will be like. Can prob pick up FM24 relatively cheaply in the meantime.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Isn't FM on everything nowadays? FM25 supposed to be out in March, tho god knows if it will be/what it will be like. Can prob pick up FM24 relatively cheaply in the meantime.

It's on gamepass and was on sale on PC up until a week ago in both Epic and Steam, but it's back to full price currently.