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Dymak said:
It's been a theme running throughout this thread. The only thing that appears to have been verified is that nobody has been able to verify where this coronavirus has come from, and that people are only able to put forward unverified hypotheses at this time.

Nobody has come up with a formula in which a particular hypothesis can be subject to a calculation that details its probability in the form of a percentage. You have tried to, but it's not based on anything, and has no validity.
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Another common theme is people presenting unverified insinuations that Bill Gates, military athletes, Chinese microbiologists, the entire worlds media and governments are all working together to kill everyone for an as yet unnamed motive. And they also appear to have the temerity to put the burden of proof on the people laughing at their spurious claims without offering one iota of evidence of their own, other than some "coincidences" which can be debunked in a 30 second google search

But hey, thats internet forums for you
 
Dymak said:
It's been a theme running throughout this thread. The only thing that appears to have been verified is that nobody has been able to verify where this coronavirus has come from, and that people are only able to put forward unverified hypotheses at this time.

Nobody has come up with a formula in which a particular hypothesis can be subject to a calculation that details its probability in the form of a percentage. You have tried to, but it's not based on anything, and has no validity.
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I think what people are failing to see is that the only facts that we have are..

Corona virus started in Wuhan. Fact.
There is a virus lab in Wuhan. Fact.
Bill Gates ran a world wide pandemic exercise at the same time. Fact.

Everything else is speculation. The food market is speculation as is the lab releasing it. Therefore i'd say covid19 coming from either the food market or the lab is 50/50!
 
Tramps_mate said:
I think what people are failing to see is that the only facts that we have are..

Corona virus started in Wuhan. Fact.
There is a virus lab in Wuhan. Fact.
Bill Gates ran a world wide pandemic exercise at the same time. Fact.

Everything else is speculation. The food market is speculation as is the lab releasing it. Therefore i'd say covid19 coming from either the food market or the lab is 50/50!
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I was about to say similar. Some will make out that you have therefore insinuated that everyone working for the BBC must be in on it. Nobody has said that. The BBC get fed news and they report it, often unquestionably, like when reporting that WT7 has collapsed when it was standing behind its presenter.

The media play a role. They often get told what to report and what not report. It doesn’t mean that Fiona Bruce and the bloke performing the sign language (who is a scouser by the way) are all in on it as well.
 
WA Toffee said:
Another common theme is people presenting unverified insinuations that Bill Gates, military athletes, Chinese microbiologists, the entire worlds media and governments are all working together to kill everyone for an as yet unnamed motive. And they also appear to have the temerity to put the burden of proof on the people laughing at their spurious claims without offering one iota of evidence of their own, other than some "coincidences" which can be debunked in a 30 second google search

But hey, thats internet forums for you
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There's alway a patient zero, it started somewhere and Wuhan is the, up to now, place.
There's a saying about having a choice between Conspiracy or Coque-up ALWAYS go with Coque-up.

Its in the local animals naturally = coque-up
Its in the local animals because it escaped from the research centre = coque-up
The local animals have nothing to do with it and It escaped from the research centre by accident...a worker caught it and walked out with it? = coque-up
It was deliberately released = conspiracy
3-1 to coque-up and air travel did the rest

The October 2019 world military games in Wuhan are a fact, fit healthy athletes could have it, call it flu and spread it none the wiser = coque-up.

If people wanted to they could test military athletes...maybe they have, who knows.
But that's just the transmission vector

Anyway I doubt it was deliberate, so no conspiracy from me, the rest is just amateur detective stuff...when you've eliminated the impossible etc. Apply Occams razor.
Coque-up
 
Tramps_mate said:
I think what people are failing to see is that the only facts that we have are..

Corona virus started in Wuhan. Fact.
There is a virus lab in Wuhan. Fact.
Bill Gates ran a world wide pandemic exercise at the same time. Fact.

Everything else is speculation. The food market is speculation as is the lab releasing it. Therefore i'd say covid19 coming from either the food market or the lab is 50/50!
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Fulham are in the premier league - Fact
Someone is going to win the premier league. Fact
If it's not Fulham, it will be someone else. Fact
Therefore the only 2 options are Fulham or someone else will win the premier league. Fact

Therefore there is a 50/50 chance that Fulham will win the premier league
 

WA Toffee said:
Fulham are in the premier league - Fact
Someone is going to win the premier league. Fact
If it's not Fulham, it will be someone else. Fact
Therefore the only 2 options are Fulham or someone else will win the premier league. Fact

Therefore there is a 50/50 chance that Fulham will win the premier league
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You'd best pray that Fulham don't go and win the league now.
 
WA Toffee said:
Fulham are in the premier league - Fact
Someone is going to win the premier league. Fact
If it's not Fulham, it will be someone else. Fact
Therefore the only 2 options are Fulham or someone else will win the premier league. Fact

Therefore there is a 50/50 chance that Fulham will win the premier league
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Your maths is bad there.
 
They've been doing these simulations since 2001 because epidemiologists have been predicting another pandemic for many decades based on the simple fact that viruses mutate at a fast rate, there have been plenty of zoonotic events in the past, humans population size is increasing, the density of humans is especially increasing in urban centers (making it easy for a virus to rapidly spread out of control), and humans are coming into increasingly more contact with animal vectors/reservoirs for a variety of reasons (e.g., novel food sources, encroachment into animal habitats, increased demand for "exotic" foods, etc.). They used a coronavirus in their simulations because they is what SARS is, and that's what MERS is--and this is a well-characterized family of viruses known to spread easily and affect the respiratory system.

But yeah, Soros, dark shadows, Gates, Illuminati, etc. etc.


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verreauxi said:
They've been doing these simulations since 2001 because epidemiologists have been predicting another pandemic for many decades based on the simple fact that viruses mutate at a fast rate, there have been plenty of zoonotic events in the past, humans population size is increasing, the density of humans is especially increasing in urban centers (making it easy for a virus to rapidly spread out of control), and humans are coming into increasingly more contact with animal vectors/reservoirs for a variety of reasons (e.g., novel food sources, encroachment into animal habitats, increased demand for "exotic" foods, etc.). They used a coronavirus in their simulations because they is what SARS is, and that's what MERS is--and this is a well-characterized family of viruses known to spread easily and affect the respiratory system.

But yeah, Soros, dark shadows, Gates, Illuminati, etc. etc.


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Yeah, but the guy who has given away 45 BILLION in charity did a simulation on the same day there was a sporting event in China. Join the dots people.
 
WA Toffee said:
Yeah, but the guy who has given away 45 BILLION in charity did a simulation on the same day there was a sporting event in China. Join the dots people.
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The oddest part of all of this Bill Gates stuff is that he wants to run the WHO. Which us lunacy mainly because its run by an executive committee.

A committee that is elected by members. A committee where specific technical skills and qualifications are required to even be considered.

The only reason there is a link at all is because he asked for their help and wanted some of the members and recognised doctors and scientists to help his quest to help cure diseases. Of course that would be the first place to go looking for help.

If only people would realise that the guy hasn't desired wealth since he effectively retired from Microsoft. He had way more than anyone needs. He decided when he retired that he wanted to do good essentially be his wife urged him to as that was her passion.

They had seen how viruses and diseases affected the 3rd world and thus their charity work became a full time thing and their organisation was created.

Funny how most conspiracy folk ignore this. Possibly because their financials are public given its charity work.
 
SteveSC said:
The oddest part of all of this Bill Gates stuff is that he wants to run the WHO. Which us lunacy mainly because its run by an executive committee.

A committee that is elected by members. A committee where specific technical skills and qualifications are required to even be considered.

The only reason there is a link at all is because he asked for their help and wanted some of the members and recognised doctors and scientists to help his quest to help cure diseases. Of course that would be the first place to go looking for help.

If only people would realise that the guy hasn't desired wealth since he effectively retired from Microsoft. He had way more than anyone needs. He decided when he retired that he wanted to do good essentially be his wife urged him to as that was her passion.

They had seen how viruses and diseases affected the 3rd world and thus their charity work became a full time thing and their organisation was created.

Funny how most conspiracy folk ignore this. Possibly because their financials are public given its charity work.
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That's a wild theory. I'm not sure it stands up against the overwhelming facts that china made a brand new virus from the ground up so that bill Gates could make a secret mind control vaccine which every government around the world (regardless of their relationship with the west, because, you know... illuminati) agreeing to make it mandatory to force us all into slavery and stop Donald trump in his quest to expose and eradicate the top secret paedo ring.
 

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