Corruption in premier League

[DuuuncanHadaPigeon]

It's not scripted but the refs and var are an utter disgrace, this is either incompetence or corruption. I tend to side with the former. If big clubs were paying off refs it would have come out like it did in Italy, I'm not ruling out corruption though, some of the decisions against us last year were borderline criminal.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Good post, especially the doping, but any idea that it’s just the RS that are on the funny Lucozade, isnt likely. Its either a thing among top teams or it isn’t, but it’s nothing new, I still have an issue of World Soccer from 1994 which talks about how much gear is in the modern game and the powers that be turn a blind eye.

Oh City are definitely on it as well. Wouldn’t surprise me if most top clubs are doing it but that doesn’t excuse any of them. Even then there’ll be managers who push the doping boundaries further than others and I’m convinced that Klopp and Guardiola are right on the edge of what’s possible with this.

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

I know what your saying but what I mean is that there would over time become new big games as the league develops.
Since I have been watching football City, United , Spurs and Chelsea have all been relegated and the league has still survived without them.

True mate but that’s why there’s alway hope to get back into that tier. 20 years ago, Chelsea and City fans wouldn’t have imagined the success they were going to have….maybe Spurs wouldn’t either (for the opposite reasons ).

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

Oh City are definitely on it as well. Wouldn’t surprise me if most top clubs are doing it but that doesn’t excuse any of them. Even then there’ll be managers who push the doping boundaries further than others and I’m convinced that Klopp and Guardiola are right on the edge of what’s possible with this.

Agree and Real Madrid have always been suspicious to me. I seen a Modric last season (vs Chelsea I think) looking like he’s been treating himself to Shelley Ann Fraser Pryce’s ”lunch”. But there will never be many (or any) whistleblowers as theyll be instantly ostracised and shamed (e.g. Harold Schumacher back in the day when he claimed the Bundelista was full of it- dropped from club and country soon after).

 

[ForeverBlue92]

It has to be. There’s been cheating in every single sport that has a fraction of the wealth football has. Cycling, swimming, rugby, boxing, figure skating, tennis, literally any sport you can name has their scandal, apart from one, which just so happens to be the richest sport in the world by a long long way.

Now either this sport is being played and governed by absolute saints who never dope and never match fix, or there’s just so much money on the line that no one dares expose it. I wonder which one it is.

The only way to save the sport now is the super league. I wish it had worked and that lot had got off when they wanted to. No one would be interested in that competition and the domestic leagues across Europe would be absolutely revitalised with competition.

Salary caps, academy draft picks, CL revenue distributed evenly down the football pyramid. Referees miced up, VAR audible to viewers, international referees rotated around different leagues. These are some of the methods that could be taken to ensure fair competition and a level playing field.

Instead we have a situation where top clubs, with unlimited budgets, probably doped beyond their eyeballs, are playing teams that have financial constraints all over them with every player wishing they played for the opposition so they could be paid ten times more, winning fixtures easily the majority of times, and the few times they might be in a bit of trouble then the ref can fix the outcome for them anyway.

It’s a sick game now and our only hope is that it eats itself.

The Madrid president keeps going on about the popularity of US sports because they have more top level competitive games. The answer to that isn’t a super league for football, it’s increasing the competition of all the national leagues (the very thing that made football the richest game in the world in the first place). People are switching off because they know that Palace Fulham and now even Everton will never win the PL again. In fact they may never win away at a top 6 ground ever again. Meanwhile in American football the worst team in the league can draft the next Tom Brady and have a chance at the Super Bowl in the near future. That’s what brings punters in genuine competition, not this fake charade football had become.

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The worst part is fans of the other 14 clubs who dont see the fundamental issue with FFP and how its strangling all the other clubs outside the top 6.

Utd: Ronaldo, Antony, Rashford, Martial, Sancho

City: Haaland, Foden, Mahrez, Grealish

RS: Salah, Nunez, Jota, Firmino, Diaz

Spurs: Kane, Son, Richarlison, Kuleveski

Chelsea: Lukaku, Aubayamang, Sterling, Broja

Just look at the forward options of the top clubs compared to the rest. All down to FFP giving them clubs the power to stockpile the best talent.

 

[paultheblue]

True mate but that’s why there’s alway hope to get back into that tier. 20 years ago, Chelsea and City fans wouldn’t have imagined the success they were going to have….maybe Spurs wouldn’t either (for the opposite reasons ).

I honestly believe supporters of all the big six after 5 years would look at the teams playing in the new premier league with envy.

 

[Saint Domingo]

I honestly believe supporters of all the big six after 5 years would look at the teams playing in the new premier league with envy.

My fear is they’ll use this time to think of a way of making sure they get the best of all worlds.

The original proposal was perfect. A completely isolated super league invite only with no relegation. No champions league trophy. In a swoop it would have completely invalidated all their previous achievements and left them playing in the most boring competition in the world with no legitimacy attached to it.


Now I fear they’ll find a way of having the national leagues as a feeder into the super league, maybe in conjunction with uefa where they’ll compete for the CL every season. They’ll get to keep all their histories, uefa get their slice of the pie, everyone will want to be in it, and they’ll get all the money.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

My fear is they’ll use this time to think of a way of making sure they get the best of all worlds.

The original proposal was perfect. A completely isolated super league invite only with no relegation. No champions league trophy. In a swoop it would have completely invalidated all their previous achievements and left them playing in the most boring competition in the world with no legitimacy attached to it.


Now I fear they’ll find a way of having the national leagues as a feeder into the super league, maybe in conjunction with uefa where they’ll compete for the CL every season. They’ll get to keep all their histories, uefa get their slice of the pie, everyone will want to be in it, and they’ll get all the money.

As we said months back mate wont be long before many fans of clubs like us and Villa, Wolves, WHU etc walk away.

 

[Saint Domingo]

As we said months back mate wont be long before many fans of clubs like us and Villa, Wolves, WHU etc walk away.

If fans could stop fretting about relegation long enough to realise they have no chance of winning anything they’d see it for what it is. Sadly most of them are just happy to win the odd game, get a pat on the head from some kopite pundits at sky, and then watch the top 6 play each other on tv.

 

[daza_1973]

Since the scab six's attempted coup - Sky/Bt have been terrified of them taking the ball home and the thought of them losing their slice of the pie to Amazon or another mega rich media giant is unthinkable.
Guaranteed there were behind closed doors meetings with the said scab six to placate them enough try stop further ESL attempts.
With the obscene amounts of money involved its almost impossible to believe preferential treatment from authorities and refs was not put on the table.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Shipmans touchline ban is a good example of it, seems like he is basically going to get to pick which game he wants to serve his 1 game ban!

 

[anton66]

When referees are handpicked for certain teams, that shows the level of corruption that exists in the PL.

 

[MrGrumpy]

I sometimes think this but I’d think I’d rather we were amongst the top tier teams again, as playing the likes of Brighton and Bournemouth just isn’t the same as the derby, Utd, City etc.

The Super league would fail within 3 years as fans will get bored

 

[MrGrumpy]

It has to be. There’s been cheating in every single sport that has a fraction of the wealth football has. Cycling, swimming, rugby, boxing, figure skating, tennis, literally any sport you can name has their scandal, apart from one, which just so happens to be the richest sport in the world by a long long way.

Now either this sport is being played and governed by absolute saints who never dope and never match fix, or there’s just so much money on the line that no one dares expose it. I wonder which one it is.

The only way to save the sport now is the super league. I wish it had worked and that lot had got off when they wanted to. No one would be interested in that competition and the domestic leagues across Europe would be absolutely revitalised with competition.

Salary caps, academy draft picks, CL revenue distributed evenly down the football pyramid. Referees miced up, VAR audible to viewers, international referees rotated around different leagues. These are some of the methods that could be taken to ensure fair competition and a level playing field.

Instead we have a situation where top clubs, with unlimited budgets, probably doped beyond their eyeballs, are playing teams that have financial constraints all over them with every player wishing they played for the opposition so they could be paid ten times more, winning fixtures easily the majority of times, and the few times they might be in a bit of trouble then the ref can fix the outcome for them anyway.

It’s a sick game now and our only hope is that it eats itself.

The Madrid president keeps going on about the popularity of US sports because they have more top level competitive games. The answer to that isn’t a super league for football, it’s increasing the competition of all the national leagues (the very thing that made football the richest game in the world in the first place). People are switching off because they know that Palace Fulham and now even Everton will never win the PL again. In fact they may never win away at a top 6 ground ever again. Meanwhile in American football the worst team in the league can draft the next Tom Brady and have a chance at the Super Bowl in the near future. That’s what brings punters in genuine competition, not this fake charade football had become.

There simply not enough money in testing to find this, clearly there is doping look at the RS and City. The like of Messi and Ronaldo, even if they where found to be doping they never announce it anyway

 

[St James]

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The worst part is fans of the other 14 clubs who dont see the fundamental issue with FFP and how its strangling all the other clubs outside the top 6.

Utd: Ronaldo, Antony, Rashford, Martial, Sancho

City: Haaland, Foden, Mahrez, Grealish

RS: Salah, Nunez, Jota, Firmino, Diaz

Spurs: Kane, Son, Richarlison, Kuleveski

Chelsea: Lukaku, Aubayamang, Sterling, Broja

Just look at the forward options of the top clubs compared to the rest. All down to FFP giving them clubs the power to stockpile the best talent.

Phil Foden has been at City since he was 4-years-old.