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Covid Passports and Testing etc

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Lord Buckethead said:
so their choice is more important than your health, or the health of your loved ones?

Crackers!
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tim cahill said:
Yes, absolutely. The alternative is authoritarianism, which I think we should all be opposed to.
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I'm in a position where I don't want to take it without talking to my specialist (other health concerns), should I be excluded from society until I have?

I can't speak to him yet because the NHS is barely running. I will eventually, until then should I be further ostracised from society than I already have?

This idea that people are acting virtuous by keeping people locked away is scary to me, and it should be to you.

This goes from informed consent to public coercion, but it seems some don't mind as long as they get to choose what to do with your health.

First and last on it I'll post because this is depressing. The fact everyone's so eager to pick each other apart is miserable. Your fellow man isn't the one dividing you like this, it's the government.
 
It would be good if Everton came out and announced they are going to insist that anyone who enters the stadium has been vaccinated, make it the clubs own decision rather then wait for guidance from either the Government or the FA.

Lead the way on this, as a club who pride themselves on the work the y do within the working class community it's the perfect opportunity to show they understand how difficult the current situation has been for people.

If it annoys a few right wing, conspiracy theory, David Icke nutters then all the better, we dont want them in the ground anyway.
 
4737carlin said:
It would be good if Everton came out and announced they are going to insist that anyone who enters the stadium has been vaccinated, make it the clubs own decision rather then wait for guidance from either the Government or the FA.

Lead the way on this, as a club who pride themselves on the work the y do within the working class community it's the perfect opportunity to show they understand how difficult the current situation has been for people.

If it annoys a few right wing, conspiracy theory, David Icke nutters then all the better, we dont want them in the ground anyway.
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I'm not a David Icke nutter. I work for the NHS and have been advised not to take it til I speak to my specialist. I can not do that til the clinics are open, which they won't be for a while.

I worked with covid patients during the first wave.

Why should I be ostracised from society?
Why do you feel better for doing this to me or people like me?
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm concerned for my health and would like to speak to an expert about the side effects and what vaccine would be best for me, given my individual circumstances.
Why do you feel as though you can tell me what to put in my body despite knowing none of my circumstances?
 

ArtetaMoney said:
Can see this thread going off later if we lose.
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I said my piece in the same thread in current affairs, it's quite an emotive subject for me as I've been working 9hrs a day in a busy supermarket and it's blown my mind people's behaviour so I'm trying my best not too carry on because it goes around in circles like anything with two camps, there seems to be entrenched beliefs that won't be shifted. We need a paradigm shift in our thinking and stop acting like individuals.
 
Terrarian said:
I said my piece in the same thread in current affairs, it's quite an emotive subject for me as I've been working 9hrs a day in a busy supermarket and it's blown my mind people's behaviour so I'm trying my best not too carry on because it goes around in circles like anything with two camps, there seems to be entrenched beliefs that won't be shifted. We need a paradigm shift in our thinking and stop acting like individuals.
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Worked in the Soviet Union...
 

billy bluestar said:
Stop acting like, “individuals”, thats collectivism... or maybe I have misinterpreted your meaning.
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Or maybe try not too think of the most extreme examples of communism just because i said not too act as individuals, i didn't mention politics or communism. My point was a simple one that people have there views and are hard too change.
 
4737carlin said:
It would be good if Everton came out and announced they are going to insist that anyone who enters the stadium has been vaccinated, make it the clubs own decision rather then wait for guidance from either the Government or the FA.

Lead the way on this, as a club who pride themselves on the work the y do within the working class community it's the perfect opportunity to show they understand how difficult the current situation has been for people.

If it annoys a few right wing, conspiracy theory, David Icke nutters then all the better, we dont want them in the ground anyway.
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They really shouldn't.
 
Terrarian said:
Or maybe try not too think of the most extreme examples of communism just because i said not too act as individuals, i didn't mention politics or communism. My point was a simple one that people have there views and are hard too change.
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No, but it was a very leading statement.
Your point about entrenched views is very valid.
Ive had the jab, wouldn’t force anyone to take it though. That simple for me.
 

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