Culture:

[Big Sams Undies]

Football has been a capitalist game for years and Everton have been at it from the get go.

Just been typically crap at it

 

[davek]

Its a very complicated question, one thats almost impossible to answer.

You could say that afer a string of sacked managers, and a lot of money spent, the "culture" in that respect is very demanding indeed. None of that was done to fail deliberately.

And then, after decades of mediocrity and a disappearing profile, we still manage to snare one of the most decorated managers in history.

"Culture" is a more indefinable thing. It's what remains and lingers on after directors, managers, players, and the kit man have all come and gone.

In that respect, yes, I think we have more of a problem.

My perception of Everton is too far skewed on the homely, family-oriented, comfy side. You can have all those things and still be a winner (apart from comfy) but the simple issue I guess is that we are not winners.

It was telling that staff at Man Utd, when sneering at Moyes, referred to him simply as "Everton". To them, it seemed therefore we were the polar opposite of the standards they expected.

I think you cannot inculcate a winning culture with people who are used to mediocrity and failure though. Unfortunately you have to root those people out and replace them systematically.

Whether its fair or not, that means people like Kenwright, and even Unsworth and a lot of others. Not least most of the players over time.

We've done the best thing we could bringing Ancelotti in. Someone who can give us the benefit of what works at some of the worlds biggest clubs. His primary job is managing the team of course but we have to take in every single sap of wisdom that he has to offer us, if we are going to change at all.

People have said in the thread already (and with some validity) that the club is now defined more as a community hub (helped in no small way by hiring DBB as the CEO) than a competitive organisation. However, our identity now, for me, is also one based around the ongoing stadium situation.

We, and outsiders to the club in the football commentariat, are consumed by the subject. It acts as a talking point to avoid the truth (and hide ours and their embarrassment) that we are the epitome of a bang average dullard PL football club. The pursuit of the stadium is a giant carpet that all of the mess of the club gets brushed under and 'tidied' away.

We're drifting aimlessly and destined to tread water for years to come, and the Saudi investment into Newcastle will see us cemented as a club in the wilderness outside of the elite.

 

[Jimishorts]

 

[Tim UpperBullen]

I read the book money can't buy you love about Everton in the 60s a very interesting and eye opening read.John Moores was ruthless but had the means to back his ambitions. Bill Kenwright was successful to a degree but he didnt have the money required in this day and age.Moshiri and friend clearly has.The podcast made out he was more of a rich fan without a plan. It may well be that to be successful we need to alter the board and be ruthless again, keep EITC but seperate