I remember they had a great start to the season didn't they? I'm sure they were top 6 after 10 games or whatever. After that it seemed like complete free fall. I saw them at Goodison, and given how bad we were under Silva they were the worst team I've seen all season. Even Norwich were levels ahead of them. No fight, no desire, just a bunch of players who think they were miles better than they are and not willing to put any effort in.
It probably didn't look that bad on paper, but in reality they were in a real mess. (I've just had a quick look, and they had 8 points from 13 games before he arrived) they were in complete free fall.
That being said, Moyes is not really the man for that job. I'm not sure why he's got a reputation as one really. He had a similar job at Sunderland and flopped. Allardyce is actually very adept at steadying sinking ships. I'm not sure thats Moyes's fortay at all.
They look in a really bad we to me though West Ham. They resemble another Sunderland.
I'm not saying West Ham aren't lacking, I'm saying I disagree with "they were doomed to relegation Moyes or no Moyes"
West Ham or Bournemouth, Villa or Norwich?
That West Ham is more than capable of staying up, if they go down, considering he started with an advantage and game in hand - it means he's performed worse than the other three. Moyes definitely isn't getting what he should from the likes of Haller, Yarmolenko, Rice, Wilshere etc.