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David Moyes - Taking a knife to a gunfight at West Ham, Part 2

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I remember they had a great start to the season didn't they? I'm sure they were top 6 after 10 games or whatever. After that it seemed like complete free fall. I saw them at Goodison, and given how bad we were under Silva they were the worst team I've seen all season. Even Norwich were levels ahead of them. No fight, no desire, just a bunch of players who think they were miles better than they are and not willing to put any effort in.

It probably didn't look that bad on paper, but in reality they were in a real mess. (I've just had a quick look, and they had 8 points from 13 games before he arrived) they were in complete free fall.

That being said, Moyes is not really the man for that job. I'm not sure why he's got a reputation as one really. He had a similar job at Sunderland and flopped. Allardyce is actually very adept at steadying sinking ships. I'm not sure thats Moyes's fortay at all.

They look in a really bad we to me though West Ham. They resemble another Sunderland.

I'm not saying West Ham aren't lacking, I'm saying I disagree with "they were doomed to relegation Moyes or no Moyes"

West Ham or Bournemouth, Villa or Norwich?

That West Ham is more than capable of staying up, if they go down, considering he started with an advantage and game in hand - it means he's performed worse than the other three. Moyes definitely isn't getting what he should from the likes of Haller, Yarmolenko, Rice, Wilshere etc.
 
If they go down, and crowds don’t come back due to restrictions, people being skint and crap football, then The Hammers could easily disappear.

Someone will come in and save them. The stadium situation they have makes them incredibly attractive to a buyer.

Think they'll get relegated this time though
 

Someone will come in and save them. The stadium situation they have makes them incredibly attractive to a buyer.

Think they'll get relegated this time though
The porno boys will want top dollar though, and when a club has to add ‘London’ to their badge, just so people viewing abroad know where they are from, alarm bells started ringing for me.
 
They literally have two of the world's best right now in Hazard and De Bruyne. Semi finals of the World Cup is not an achievement.

Ok? Not sure what that has to do with what I said though?

I said the 80's team was very good with the likes of Cuelemans, Gerets and Pfaff, people underestimate how good they were back then. For a smallish nation they have always managed to churn out quality players.
 
Ok? Not sure what that has to do with what I said though?

I said the 80's team was very good with the likes of Cuelemans, Gerets and Pfaff, people underestimate how good they were back then. For a smallish nation they have always managed to churn out quality players.

The post you were replying to said that they had a worse squad when they got to their last semi final. And they did.
 
The post you were replying to said that they had a worse squad when they got to their last semi final. And they did.

He said "far worse" implying that they were a bunch of nobodies when they obviously were not. Merely stating they had a good team back then too which they did...
 

When 72 points with champagne football has been reproduced again at GP for a season then you'd have an ounce of credibility having a pop at the FIFA top 10 rated coach who's become Belgium's best ever manager and taken them to the number 1 ranked international team.

Until that time though, please dont use the name Moyes in the same sentence as Martinez.
David Moyes is welcome to come visit Everton anytime, he always gets greated with smiles and handshakes
 

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