2024/25 David Moyes


This is quite possibly true. Moyes is a very experienced manager and can keep most (not all, he pooped the bed at Sunderland) teams in mid-table in the PL with the odd European jaunt. Not bad. But he can't do it at the very top end of the league. His record against the scab six, particularly away from home, is very poor and he failed his big club audition at Man Utd, albeit following in an unfollowable manager. In other words you know roughly what you're going to get with Moyes. If we want to move beyond that we're either going to have to get an established top end manager and back then, difficult with our recent history and resources, or take a punt on a "flavour of the month" with the knowledge that it's a risk and may not work.
We have seen in recent weeks that Moyes hasn't changed as a manager, I thought he may of changed. Moyes problem is he doesn't know how to turn draws into wins, if you look at 09/10 season, the amount of draws, when we should of won was ridiculous. Moyes should of made changes at half time in last 2 games yet didn't. It was only because Dyche was so crap, that our focus was staying up.
 
We have seen in recent weeks that Moyes hasn't changed as a manager, I thought he may of changed. Moyes problem is he doesn't know how to turn draws into wins, if you look at 09/10 season, the amount of draws, when we should of won was ridiculous. Moyes should of made changes at half time in last 2 games yet didn't. It was only because Dyche was so crap, that our focus was staying up.
Would you say the best striker Moyes had was Yakubu, and that when he snapped his achilles it was game over?

I want a variety of Moyes sides with a fit and firing Yakubu or Lukaku to judge.

Bent, Beattie, McFadden, freddy beckham, Jo, it's not a great cutting edge to lead a side with.

Give the manager the tools for the job and then judge?
 

There's no cash. Wake up FFS.

Moyes will be ok with that. No expectation.

If he stays - ok. I wont be arsed.

But I hope he does leave ASAP.

He wasn't who TFG wanted and I cant see them not sweeping clean at the first opportunity. IMO it'd be far better to get shut of him now.

No cash because they don’t want to hand any over and we are a relatively quick investment play or PSR?
 
We are the last chance he has of getting another trophy so I'm expecting him to be a bit bolder than before, given a chance.

Anyway, managers mean nothing if we can't build a quality squad.

We seem to have missed out on some quality achievable buys in Moshiris time - if only we'd had Guimares, Gibbs White, Kudus, even Elanga - from memory we were linked with all of them.

We have seen in recent weeks that Moyes hasn't changed as a manager, I thought he may of changed. Moyes problem is he doesn't know how to turn draws into wins, if you look at 09/10 season, the amount of draws, when we should of won was ridiculous. Moyes should of made changes at half time in last 2 games yet didn't. It was only because Dyche was so crap, that our focus was staying up.


He's had a new manager bounce which has saved us from the relegation battle which Dyche had us walking into.

Now were seeing the same David Moyes of old -- workmanlike teams devoid of excitement with a lack of xfactor players.

If it was up to him, he'd get us top 8 in 2 seasons time but we'd have an ageing workmanlike squad that no one is interested to give us our money back for...perhaps 2 or 3 good wide players.

See West Ham...or the Everton squad we were left with.
 
Had to beat a lot of good sides to qualify in the first place. Broke his duck away to Arsenal and beat Spurs in London last season as well.

Indeed, his record for West Ham in Europe over that whole spell was outstanding.
Who? Anderlecht? Steaua Bucharest? Don't get me wrong, I'd take a Europa Conference League trophy in a heartbeat but let's get it right, it's the Papa John's trophy European equivalent.

That comment about breaking his duck away at Arsenal after abar 20 attempts doesn't support your argument as much as you think it does.

Moyes is a decent manager, light years ahead of Sean Dyche, but he's a mid-table plodder. He doesn't have it in him to challenge the big boys. He's got an inferiority complex and he passes it on to his teams.
 
Who? Anderlecht? Steaua Bucharest? Don't get me wrong, I'd take a Europa Conference League trophy in a heartbeat but let's get it right, it's the Papa John's trophy European equivalent.

That comment about breaking his duck away at Arsenal after abar 20 attempts doesn't support your argument as much as you think it does.

Moyes is a decent manager, light years ahead of Sean Dyche, but he's a mid-table plodder. He doesn't have it in him to challenge the big boys. He's got an inferiority complex and he passes it on to his teams.
No, had to finish in European places two seasons in a row with West Ham. A club he twice had to come in and get safe from relegation fights into the bargain.

The prior season he took them to the Europa semis and last season he took them to the Europa quarters.

And last season:

“West Ham are tied with Aston Villa for points (12) and wins (four) against ‘Big Six’ sides this season. Since 2018-19, only five clubs have had more such wins in a single season: six for Leicester City, in 2020-21, Brighton & Hove Albion and Brentford, both in 2022-23, and five for Everton and Villa, both in 2020-21.”

 
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He's had a new manager bounce which has saved us from the relegation battle which Dyche had us walking into.

Now were seeing the same David Moyes of old -- workmanlike teams devoid of excitement with a lack of xfactor players.

If it was up to him, he'd get us top 8 in 2 seasons time but we'd have an ageing workmanlike squad that no one is interested to give us our money back for...perhaps 2 or 3 good wide players.

See West Ham...or the Everton squad we were left with.
Guess we will see next season.

Given the state of the world economy I wonder how it will change our owners outlook anyway.
 
He's had a new manager bounce which has saved us from the relegation battle which Dyche had us walking into.

Now were seeing the same David Moyes of old -- workmanlike teams devoid of excitement with a lack of xfactor players.

If it was up to him, he'd get us top 8 in 2 seasons time but we'd have an ageing workmanlike squad that no one is interested to give us our money back for...perhaps 2 or 3 good wide players.

See West Ham...or the Everton squad we were left with.
He has the same group of players available as Dyche because we didn’t spend any money. The only difference is, our “x factor” players who Dyche had access to have all been injured. Jesus wept, give him a chance. Ndiaye and McNeil are arguably the only two “x factor” players we have and they have unavailable for nearly his whole time here.
 
He has the same group of players available as Dyche because we didn’t spend any money. The only difference is, our “x factor” players who Dyche had access to have all been injured. Jesus wept, give him a chance. Ndiaye and McNeil are arguably the only two “x factor” players we have and they have unavailable for nearly his whole time here.

…..exactly, both Dyche and Moyes continually spoke about the lack of quality in the squad, Moyes is having to work with players he’s been given. Be a fascinating summer.
 
He has the same group of players available as Dyche because we didn’t spend any money. The only difference is, our “x factor” players who Dyche had access to have all been injured. Jesus wept, give him a chance. Ndiaye and McNeil are arguably the only two “x factor” players we have and they have unavailable for nearly his whole time here.

Hes certainly not been using Alcaraz correctly.
 

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