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Confirmed Signing Davy Klaassen

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Intrigued who we bring in for the 4-3-3 system as when Rom goes, we will have no out and out centre forward so to speak, unless it's 3 forwards who can swap and change, such as say Sandro / Lookman / DCL / Rooney

Sandro I think was/is a target regardless of Rom's future.

I'd imagine should Rom go we'll want a 'target man' and then maybe another versatile forward (i.e. the King links) - which would probably mean the end of Del also.
 
Sandro I think was/is a target regardless of Rom's future.

I'd imagine should Rom go we'll want a 'target man' and then maybe another versatile forward (i.e. the King links) - which would probably mean the end of Del also.

Yep, Bolasie to come back so don't think there is any place for Del and Mirallas and the latter has signed a new contract of course.

The target man is the interesting one as we have not been linked with one yet to my knowledge (I'm deliberately not counting Troy Deeney)
 
Yep, Bolasie to come back so don't think there is any place for Del and Mirallas and the latter has signed a new contract of course.

The target man is the interesting one as we have not been linked with one yet to my knowledge (I'm deliberately not counting Troy Deeney)

Willian Jose - back in April/May - was the only one.
 
Sandro I think was/is a target regardless of Rom's future.

I'd imagine should Rom go we'll want a 'target man' and then maybe another versatile forward (i.e. the King links) - which would probably mean the end of Del also.
Keep Rom for one more season, let him go for £30m after and convince Dolberg that him and Klaassen are going to tear up the premier league next season. I won't even be mad.
 
Yep, Bolasie to come back so don't think there is any place for Del and Mirallas and the latter has signed a new contract of course.

The target man is the interesting one as we have not been linked with one yet to my knowledge (I'm deliberately not counting Troy Deeney)

Agreed.

Surprised we haven't been linked with Giroud a lot more.

Possibly Nicolai Jorgensen from Feyenoord?
 

He was brought into the Ajax Youth Academy in the time Koeman was in charge of the club in 2004. If you know anything about their set up you know that the whole structure is integrated, and for a player to be poached by the club at that age the head coach would know all about it.

I have no idea what this discussion is about, but the Head Coach/Manager at Ajax has nothing to do with youth scouting or youth development (at that age). We have amateur scouts who do all that and a head of youth development who oversees this. I don't think Koeman even knew who Davy Klaassen was when he was manager at Ajax, unless he watched a match of the Ajax youth team Klaassen played in that time.
 
He was brought into the Ajax Youth Academy in the time Koeman was in charge of the club in 2004. If you know anything about their set up you know that the whole structure is integrated, and for a player to be poached by the club at that age the head coach would know all about it.
Bit condescending but point taken. Koeman was busy scouting 12 year olds for Ajax which is why he forgot about his day job and got sacked.
Glad you took the scales from my eyes on that one.
 

He was brought into the Ajax Youth Academy in the time Koeman was in charge of the club in 2004. If you know anything about their set up you know that the whole structure is integrated, and for a player to be poached by the club at that age the head coach would know all about it.

highly unlikely that Koeman was aware of Klaassen at the youth academy at that time. Koeman knows Klaassen from his time as a coach at Feyenoord and he is a Ajacied so he is found at a regular base at the club. Klaassen is considered one of the bigger talents of the eredivisie, Koeman has seen his abilities and knows that he can grow out to an amazing footballer.

but i get your point, the price is high even for everton standards but considering the prices being payed for players nowadays this is considered a normal market value. In exchange you will be getting a very promising talent which has won prices for being the biggest talent of the club, the division and even the MVP award of the year. Klaassen wont fail, there is no doubt in my mind.
 
I have no idea what this discussion is about, but the Head Coach/Manager at Ajax has nothing to do with youth scouting or youth development (at that age). We have amateur scouts who do all that and a head of youth development who oversees this. I don't think Koeman even knew who Davy Klaassen was when he was manager at Ajax, unless he watched a match of the Ajax youth team Klaassen played in that time.
*I cant believe I'm having to remind someone of their own club's processes, but ok...*

Kids who first get into Ajax's youth set up start there when they're about 7 or 8 and will have been scouted in advance and then invited. They scout within a 50km zone from Amsterdam so Klaassen should have been well mopped up. He wasn't. He was transferred twice before reaching Ajax at 11 and would have been seen as one they missed out on and had to get in. Coaching is fluid at the club and coaching at different age groups isn't seen as more important with one group than with others. The coaches of each age group are all ex-club players and it's inconceivable that the head coach wouldn't hear about a player with talent that'd been brought in at that age. To believe that a head coach at Ajax would only become aware of talented youngsters when they burst into the older academy teams just beggars belief.

Koeman himself was bemoaning the fact that Ajax dont start their scouting as Feyenoord do at age 6, so it's a long shot that he, whilst at Ajax, wasn't looking closely at what was coming through the door at a much later age than that.
 
highly unlikely that Koeman was aware of Klaassen at the youth academy at that time. Koeman knows Klaassen from his time as a coach at Feyenoord and he is a Ajacied so he is found at a regular base at the club. Klaassen is considered one of the bigger talents of the eredivisie, Koeman has seen his abilities and knows that he can grow out to an amazing footballer.

but i get your point, the price is high even for everton standards but considering the prices being payed for players nowadays this is considered a normal market value. In exchange you will be getting a very promising talent which has won prices for being the biggest talent of the club, the division and even the MVP award of the year. Klaassen wont fail, there is no doubt in my mind.
Look mate, I dont doubt he has the required technique and vision that would have been part and parcel of his club's programme. My doubt is that he has only played in Eredivisie and that they may not transfer well. It will be much faster and more physical than in Holland and that has an unhappy knack of destroying the time required for vision and distribution.

Take it from me: what you see Klaassen being able to do week in week out over there is something that he will not be able to do over here. Can he adapt? Maybe. But €30M looks like a massive gamble to find out.

I would swerve the Dutch league and focus on La Liga, Bundesliga and Serie A imports. No offence, but your league is now a backwater. Sorry.
 

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