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Discussion & help on depression & mental health related issues

I mentioned to my boss that I've been having these weird fatigue symptoms and she seems to think it's stress and is sympathetic to it so that's quite positive.
Look, it's a start. You've highlighted your concerns so make sure you document the conversation, date and time, and then if you choose to see someone, you can mention that your boss is aware. I cannot stress the importance of documenting this.

Just a perfect storm of things going on the last year or so. Massive workload increase, new role (promotion), new people coming in around me who have a lower opinion of my abilities than the ones there before them (at least that's my perception, I don't have solid evidence on that).
Try to avoid talking yourself into that one. You'll end up seeing shadows in every corner. Be open to them if you can, have a chat, gauge their opinions that way rather than guessing (if it's appropriate to talk to them of course)

And to top it all I don't really enjoy it. I'm looking to move in another direction all together but it's taking some time :)
The promotion & money is great, but not worth it in the long run. I was on over AUD100k in my role, and in the end, it just wasn't worth it. Keep the role while you're looking, but if you feel it's all slipping away from you, it's better to walk away.
 
Look, it's a start. You've highlighted your concerns so make sure you document the conversation, date and time, and then if you choose to see someone, you can mention that your boss is aware. I cannot stress the importance of documenting this.


Try to avoid talking yourself into that one. You'll end up seeing shadows in every corner. Be open to them if you can, have a chat, gauge their opinions that way rather than guessing (if it's appropriate to talk to them of course)


The promotion & money is great, but not worth it in the long run. I was on over AUD100k in my role, and in the end, it just wasn't worth it. Keep the role while you're looking, but if you feel it's all slipping away from you, it's better to walk away.


Spot on : Health not wealth .
 
Look, it's a start. You've highlighted your concerns so make sure you document the conversation, date and time, and then if you choose to see someone, you can mention that your boss is aware. I cannot stress the importance of documenting this.

Try to avoid talking yourself into that one. You'll end up seeing shadows in every corner. Be open to them if you can, have a chat, gauge their opinions that way rather than guessing (if it's appropriate to talk to them of course)

True, it might be a bit of me projecting my anxiety onto colleagues. I read something that a symptom of burnout is thinking people are out to get you. Maybe that's something to do with it. Maybe it's time to speak to my GP properly about it. See if he can refer me to speak to someone.

Spot on : Health not wealth .

Tell myself that every day but can't seem to bring myself to do the right thing and quit.
 
True, it might be a bit of me projecting my anxiety onto colleagues. I read something that a symptom of burnout is thinking people are out to get you. Maybe that's something to do with it. Maybe it's time to speak to my GP properly about it. See if he can refer me to speak to someone.
There's also a thing called gas lighting which was happening to me. Basically its people undermining your confidence by implying that you're stuffing things up, which you're not. Be aware of these things but let the professionals guide you through it.

Remember, if there's a term for it, you're not alone!

Tell myself that every day but can't seem to bring myself to do the right thing and quit.
It's very hard to pick the optimum time to call it a day. I probably waited too long but by waiting them out, I forced their hand and got a bit of a payout. My circumstances are very different of course but in hindsight, I should have moved on earlier.
 
True, it might be a bit of me projecting my anxiety onto colleagues. I read something that a symptom of burnout is thinking people are out to get you. Maybe that's something to do with it. Maybe it's time to speak to my GP properly about it. See if he can refer me to speak to someone.



Tell myself that every day but can't seem to bring myself to do the right thing and quit.

I really appreciate how difficult it is to approach your manager and tell her that your not coping, due the culture in the work place, where sinking under an unmanageable work load is seen as failure.

However as @anjelikaferrett has said, now that you've highlighted it to your manger, she has a duty of care now.

Give it a bit of time and see if anything is done about it and then consider what to do next ?
 

Thanks @anjelikaferrett @COYBL25 and @BiggyRat - I mentioned to my boss that I've been having these weird fatigue symptoms and she seems to think it's stress and is sympathetic to it so that's quite positive. Just a perfect storm of things going on the last year or so. Massive workload increase, new role (promotion), new people coming in around me who have a lower opinion of my abilities than the ones there before them (at least that's my perception, I don't have solid evidence on that). And to top it all I don't really enjoy it. I'm looking to move in another direction all together but it's taking some time :)



That's the dream right there ;)


The problem for many people nowadays is that they are programmed to believe their job is a 'career' n dyou have to go as far and as high as possible - something obviously not everyone can be the boss and secondly many people just aren't cut out fo it ( llok a the many people who climb the greasy pole who areuseless at it!) Think people ( not you personally need actually think what they want and if the workload, stress etc is actually worth it. After the initial pride in promotion the reality is sometimes a nightmare, including expectations to change aspects of yourself and personality
 
If you have told her about it and she has not done anything then she is failing in her duty as your manager. The very least she should be doing is looking at reasonable adjustments such as working patterns, work load, working environment. she should also consider referring you to Occupational Health to see if they can come up with something that would make you feel better. Remember, work has caused your problems so by ignoring your issues after you have told them about it puts them on very dodgy ground.

Problem is, if its anyting like teaching, they won't give a toss and will just put you on capability procedures till you quit. Hope other professions are different
 
There's also a thing called gas lighting which was happening to me. Basically its people undermining your confidence by implying that you're stuffing things up, which you're not. Be aware of these things but let the professionals guide you through it.

Remember, if there's a term for it, you're not alone!


It's very hard to pick the optimum time to call it a day. I probably waited too long but by waiting them out, I forced their hand and got a bit of a payout. My circumstances are very different of course but in hindsight, I should have moved on earlier.
I can remember damo, i think it was, put something in here about gas lighting a while back. It's quite interesting reading about it.
 
Hello all,

I posted a couple of weeks ago about how I was going through a bit of a crap time. Just thought I'd dip my toe in again, see if anyone can offer any advice. I went back to see my GP last week and told her I was really struggling to sleep - indeed, I hadn't slept at all for the previous two nights. It's strange because although I do recognise that I'm likely suffering from depression or anxiety in some form, I don't feel it's this that's preventing me from getting asleep. I told her that I'm tired when I'm going to bed, but then once I'm there, I can't fall asleep. At that point my mind was racing a bit so perhaps it was that playing a part, but also I noticed that the Nytol I was taking was basically an antihistamine which, upon closer inspection, was probably playing a part in keeping me awake (some of the side effects were prevalent).

GP wanted to prescribe anti-depressants but I resisted this and asked instead for sleeping pills, as my rationale was that if I could get a few good nights sleep under my belt, I could work through the depression and anxiety myself through exercise, mindfulness etc. etc. So I've been prescribed zopiclone and for the past 5 nights I've been taking this to get some kip. The problem is, although they are sending me asleep, they're only sending me into a very light sleep, almost to the point where I'm sort of conducting and directing any dreams I have, all the time being subconsciously aware of the time. Furthermore, the following day I will feel either up/down interchangably, and moreover I don't actually feel particularly well rested; I'm still tired.

The past couple of nights I tried not to take any zopiclone, but unfortunately every time I am on the verge of falling asleep, I get this bizarre twitch or spasm in my head which shakes me back awake. I've read that this is common (hypnic jerk I think it's called) although in most cases it appears to happen only a couple of times and most people still get to sleep. In my case, it happens literally every time I'm falling asleep, and it's therefore preventing me from falling asleep naturally. It's really disconcerting and incredibly frustrating. I went to bed at 9 o clock the other night and was listening to sleep meditation for over 3 hours without falling asleep. Last night I was very tired as usual but just as I was drifting off around 1 o clock I was jolted back awake by this head twitch/spasm - scared the crap out of me actually, as it was very arresting. So I'm currently in a cycle of being unable to sleep without taking these zopiclone pills, a situation I desperately want to reverse. I had a look at cortisol and things like that that could be causing problems, but I'm at a loss as to what to do next. Has anyone else ever suffered with these bizarre head spasms shaking you awake, and literally preventing you from falling asleep without pills?
 

Hello all,

I posted a couple of weeks ago about how I was going through a bit of a crap time. Just thought I'd dip my toe in again, see if anyone can offer any advice. I went back to see my GP last week and told her I was really struggling to sleep - indeed, I hadn't slept at all for the previous two nights. It's strange because although I do recognise that I'm likely suffering from depression or anxiety in some form, I don't feel it's this that's preventing me from getting asleep. I told her that I'm tired when I'm going to bed, but then once I'm there, I can't fall asleep. At that point my mind was racing a bit so perhaps it was that playing a part, but also I noticed that the Nytol I was taking was basically an antihistamine which, upon closer inspection, was probably playing a part in keeping me awake (some of the side effects were prevalent).

GP wanted to prescribe anti-depressants but I resisted this and asked instead for sleeping pills, as my rationale was that if I could get a few good nights sleep under my belt, I could work through the depression and anxiety myself through exercise, mindfulness etc. etc. So I've been prescribed zopiclone and for the past 5 nights I've been taking this to get some kip. The problem is, although they are sending me asleep, they're only sending me into a very light sleep, almost to the point where I'm sort of conducting and directing any dreams I have, all the time being subconsciously aware of the time. Furthermore, the following day I will feel either up/down interchangably, and moreover I don't actually feel particularly well rested; I'm still tired.

The past couple of nights I tried not to take any zopiclone, but unfortunately every time I am on the verge of falling asleep, I get this bizarre twitch or spasm in my head which shakes me back awake. I've read that this is common (hypnic jerk I think it's called) although in most cases it appears to happen only a couple of times and most people still get to sleep. In my case, it happens literally every time I'm falling asleep, and it's therefore preventing me from falling asleep naturally. It's really disconcerting and incredibly frustrating. I went to bed at 9 o clock the other night and was listening to sleep meditation for over 3 hours without falling asleep. Last night I was very tired as usual but just as I was drifting off around 1 o clock I was jolted back awake by this head twitch/spasm - scared the crap out of me actually, as it was very arresting. So I'm currently in a cycle of being unable to sleep without taking these zopiclone pills, a situation I desperately want to reverse. I had a look at cortisol and things like that that could be causing problems, but I'm at a loss as to what to do next. Has anyone else ever suffered with these bizarre head spasms shaking you awake, and literally preventing you from falling asleep without pills?


Are you taking any meds for despression mate, as I know from experience that one side effect of Venlafaxine amongst other anti depressants causes " brain zaps - hypic jerks ".

Other than that I'd recommend trying this forum - Mentalhealthforum.org

NHS run site and I'm sure there'll be people on there who can help ?.
 
Are you taking any meds for despression mate, as I know from experience that one side effect of Venlafaxine amongst other anti depressants causes " brain zaps - hypic jerks ".

Other than that I'd recommend trying this forum - Mentalhealthforum.org

NHS run site and I'm sure there'll be people on there who can help ?.

No mate, not on any anti-depressants. Brain zap is a good way of putting it!
 
Second interview done.

Thought I came across well (same as the first interview last week) but I'm worried the practical tests let me down.

Don't think I failed the tests, but perhaps didn't do as well as I know I could have.

Although I realise that may be the nerves kicking in.

Well done mate it's another step forward I wish you all the best and if you're out of luck on this occasion the experience you get from it will be invaluable for the future and at least you now know what's expected of you.
 

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