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Discussion & help on depression & mental health related issues

As I am new to this forum I have only just found out about this topic. But I would like to thank everyone who has contributed as it has made me more confident to talk about how I feel.

I ended up in A&E on sat night having been struggling for the past few weeks. I have been having shortness of breath and chest pains but over Friday and Saturday it got worse. I will feel the breathlessness/chest pain and then just think about that for hours. It felt like I was in an endless loop of not feeling right and feeling like everything I do was a day dream. Struggling to sleep etc. I have had nothing in my life to bring this on and its so new to me it is quite scary. I was one of those people who would just say snap out of it etc but that's near impossible.

It cumulated on Sat night when I was trying to go to bed and just sat there thinking about what's wrong with me. This ended up with me feeling like I was about to die and that what I felt was never going to end. I woke my partner up just to tell her I was scared and did not know what to do as I am a very private person and she knew I was struggling but not to the level I felt.

A&E did some tests on me and nothing came back as being physically wrong so they advised talking to my GP about anxiety etc. I did this today and they gave me 2 options of trying to get some counselling or prescribed some meds to help. I decided against the meds as don't want to 'hooked on them' but if anyone has had any of these like the anti depressants I would like to hear from them so please DM if you want.. The people I spoke to today where really nice and I now have a video call in a few weeks to talk to someone and also given emergency contact numbers. I still don't feel amazing but it does feel a weight has been lifted a bit by talking to someone so would 100% recommend that.
My advice mate, try the medication and if they help, great. If they don't let your GP know. Some good advice on anti depressants, there are lots and they do have side effects but, because there are so many, try one or two. Remember you MUST give them 3-5 weeks to be therapeutic. I've never had a panic attack but treated lots and it can be horrendous. Again there are a number of remedies that may work but I particularly subscribe to breathing techniques. Look it up on the net for more info. But I do a lot of breathing exercises with the people I work with and they swear by them. Often done to the accompanying relaxing music. Music, reading and mindfulness are often helpful. It's about the perceived lack of control, the fight or flight theory but it's very different for every person as a lot have rightly said. Trial and error. Don't be afraid to Sk for help and as I often say on here, a friendly comforting voice can go a long way. You are not alone, there are lots of kindly thoughtful people on here who will respond and while we are not experts, we have life experience which is what it's all about. Take care buddy.
 
It’s been almost three years since I posted in this thread but recently my mental health took a huge nose dive which resulted in me having to go to A&E and tell them that I am at crisis point. I was suicidal and having a complete mental breakdown.

I won’t go into the details but I will say that I suffer with extreme OCD.

I also had to make a couple of phone calls to the Merseycare Urgent Help team.

I don’t really know what I’m trying to say here but please do not let yourself get to the point I was at. Talk to people about whatever is on your mind.

It’s so easy to get caught up in whatever it is that is getting to you that you lose sight of everything else.

Without the help of the A&E staff and the Merseycare team, I honestly don’t think I would be here today.

Depression and anxiety can come at you from nowhere, without any warning signs.

One day I was enjoying Everton beat Wolves, everything was going great in work, in my personal life, etc, and then within a few days I’m in A&E.

I always thought it would be very awkward to phone up a mental health line to talk but they are the kindest people you can imagine. They pulled me back from the edge. I would not be here right now without them phone calls because my own mind would’ve convinced me that it’s better off if I wasn’t here. If you feel you can’t talk to anyone, then talk to them.

I’ve only had experience with Merseycare but I am sure they are all equally as brilliant.

Going forward, I now have weekly counselling which I am very grateful for.

Times are tough right now, so please look after yourself.

Sorry to hear mate hope you're feeling better x
 
Hello Leeds fan here , actually come on here to read the build up on the game . For someone who has battled anxiety for way over 15 years . It also led me to a gambling addiction and also a chronic drug and alchohol user . I’m hoping I can help you and anyone else going through a tough time because it’s ok to feel the effects of one . Truth is in life we are all here to live the best life we can . We are born . We grow . We learn . We work . We learn to love . We meet a companion . We have a family . We buy a house . We build memories and then eventually we pass . Hopefuly luck enough to leave behind a next generation of our family name . Truth is no one ever said life is life would be easy or how to live life . There’s no book out there that tells you what do or a manual to follow . Life is lived on your terms and how you do that is initially up-to you . What makes anxiety and depression for that person is a lot of different factors . It could be there career , it could be there lifestyle , it could be there outlook . It could b there partner , there is literally so many different scenarios . The good thing though is it can all be treated . Your mind is such a powerful thing , use it well and it can serve you so well for your life . Let it use you and it can be destructive. Truth is a lot of people get mental ilness see because of trauma , drug/drink abuse and also chemical inbalance. A lot of people generally Escape reality using drink , drugs , gambling . Other bad habits Wich can in turn lead to addiction ( when the person can’t cope anymore ) instead exercise . Healthy diet , mediation , nature . Those are the healthy things that will make you better . But people mainly choose the first ones as they seem to be a more short term relief . Short term relief for long term pain . The second being more of short term pain for long term gain . What I’m trying to get at is a lot of the time you have to accept that thoughts are just thoughts . Can you recall the amount of thoughts your having in a day ? No . Can you recall a specific or certain thought your having that is causing distress . Yes ! . Because 9/10 people become fixated on a thought or a intrusive thought and suddenly think there is something trebly wrong or there Ill or crazy . Anxiety is created because your body goes into a fight / flight response and adrenaline and serotonin is produced causing a major feeling of overwhelm . If you don’t control your breathing it then leads to a full on panic attack . One of the main things to do in life in my eyes is acceptance . Once you learn to undestand your literally a observer of your own mind . And choose Wich thoughts to accept or in better terms choose how to react to them . The more free in life you will be . I’ve ranted on but your worth it and you will get through this . Sometimes things in life happen where we are at the bottom or on a Rocky road but they will shape your life to be stronger and you learn to accept the things you cannot change . Good luck on Wednesday . Aaron a Leeds fan
Nice comment Aaron, great insight.
 
My dog Toffee (pictured in my avatar) is ill with diabetes. It was a shock diagnosis.

It's just her and me in the house. I am wfh and previously was getting through lockdown and all the variants of it, pretty much ok.

This has hit me hard though, bringing her mortality into sharp focus and the prospect of being alone.

I have family close by but in an emotional sense, nobody close.

We are still trying to regulate her glucose levels with insulin and diet and I haven't at all been told there is no hope for her, but she has certainly lost much of her vitality and vigour.

So I find things very dark and depressing and its only now the impact of covid makes a real difference as well. I can only consult with the vet on the phone or outside the front entrance with a mask on (which I completely understand) and it makes having a conversation very difficult.

I have sat awake in bed or have been sitting watching TV for example and the tears will come.

Hi Everyone,

Toffee passed away this morning at the vets. She had begun to deteriorate over the past fortnight, and that accelerated over the last 2 days. Her weight loss was the single most upsetting and concerning thing. The vet said it could not be explained due to diabetes, and then thought it was due to kidney failure, which was ruled out last week. In the end, she thinks it is most probably cancer and that seems logical to me. I did not want to expose Toffee to any further tests and probes.

I only called the vet this morning, having decided yesterday that it was time to act and do the last thing I could do for her. And it was over within an hour after my phone call. I have been through this experience many times, and there was some comfort in that it was not quite as traumatic as I envisaged, although I know this will hit me hard down the line. Today is about relief primarily.

I am glad I took action, and there is some comfort in my vets assessment that my decision to do something was as well timed as it could have been.

I am in shock really. I have taken the rest of the week off work. But in a sense I don't know what to do with myself now. So I'm on here. I know I will struggle to sleep over the next few nights. I'll have to leave the light on.

It's just a profound sadness really. I have had dogs all my life, they all lived to advanced old age. But I had the gift of 8 1/2 years with Toffee. The last 10 weeks were horrendous. I couldn't eat, I couldn't concentrate on anything on TV. It was just work and looking after Toffee in between.

My beloved furgirl. You are free now, my pet. Free of nasty insulin needles, free of horrible prescription food. I was and am so proud of you.
 

Hi Everyone,

Toffee passed away this morning at the vets. She had begun to deteriorate over the past fortnight, and that accelerated over the last 2 days. Her weight loss was the single most upsetting and concerning thing. The vet said it could not be explained due to diabetes, and then thought it was due to kidney failure, which was ruled out last week. In the end, she thinks it is most probably cancer and that seems logical to me. I did not want to expose Toffee to any further tests and probes.

I only called the vet this morning, having decided yesterday that it was time to act and do the last thing I could do for her. And it was over within an hour after my phone call. I have been through this experience many times, and there was some comfort in that it was not quite as traumatic as I envisaged, although I know this will hit me hard down the line. Today is about relief primarily.

I am glad I took action, and there is some comfort in my vets assessment that my decision to do something was as well timed as it could have been.

I am in shock really. I have taken the rest of the week off work. But in a sense I don't know what to do with myself now. So I'm on here. I know I will struggle to sleep over the next few nights. I'll have to leave the light on.

It's just a profound sadness really. I have had dogs all my life, they all lived to advanced old age. But I had the gift of 8 1/2 years with Toffee. The last 10 weeks were horrendous. I couldn't eat, I couldn't concentrate on anything on TV. It was just work and looking after Toffee in between.

My beloved furgirl. You are free now, my pet. Free of nasty insulin needles, free of horrible prescription food. I was and am so proud of you.
Take comfort in the fact you gave her a good life mate.

Pets really do become part of the family. They’re the heartbeat of the house.
 
Hi Everyone,

Toffee passed away this morning at the vets. She had begun to deteriorate over the past fortnight, and that accelerated over the last 2 days. Her weight loss was the single most upsetting and concerning thing. The vet said it could not be explained due to diabetes, and then thought it was due to kidney failure, which was ruled out last week. In the end, she thinks it is most probably cancer and that seems logical to me. I did not want to expose Toffee to any further tests and probes.

I only called the vet this morning, having decided yesterday that it was time to act and do the last thing I could do for her. And it was over within an hour after my phone call. I have been through this experience many times, and there was some comfort in that it was not quite as traumatic as I envisaged, although I know this will hit me hard down the line. Today is about relief primarily.

I am glad I took action, and there is some comfort in my vets assessment that my decision to do something was as well timed as it could have been.

I am in shock really. I have taken the rest of the week off work. But in a sense I don't know what to do with myself now. So I'm on here. I know I will struggle to sleep over the next few nights. I'll have to leave the light on.

It's just a profound sadness really. I have had dogs all my life, they all lived to advanced old age. But I had the gift of 8 1/2 years with Toffee. The last 10 weeks were horrendous. I couldn't eat, I couldn't concentrate on anything on TV. It was just work and looking after Toffee in between.

My beloved furgirl. You are free now, my pet. Free of nasty insulin needles, free of horrible prescription food. I was and am so proud of you.
That's so sad. Our pets are part of the family. You gave her a lovely life, take comfort in that and you did the kindest thing for her. Hugs x
 

Hi and thanks for the response.

To be honest I have not been feeling the best for a couple of years but it has always been something that has come up once in a blue moon, so i kind of ignored it.

However the last few weeks i have not felt very well and had a couple of episodes with from what i have read do sound like panic attacks. However i have been feeling anxious too but its quite hard to distinguish between are the panic attacks leading to anxiety or vice versa or is this even possible. This is where i hope counselling will help.

The strange thing is that i have had nothing different happen in my life (bar the West Ham game) which i think could of bought this on. I think i might of bottled things up too much and also over thinking things which is making it worse. I mean no one is happy with the pandemic but the lack of anything to look forward too cant be a good thing. However I do feel better in talking about it after the weekend which looks like a step forward.

Thanks regarding the anti depressant info i think that it something i will have to talk about with my GP if it gets to that stage. I have been recommended by the GP some herbal Rhodiola tablets to try so think i will give them ago.
Sparkin anxiety always comes first. To have a panic attack you must have a degree of anxiety first. A Panic attack occurs when your anxieties are so debilitating you THINK you have or you will lose control. This lack of control is a terrible feeling to experience. That's why it's important if at all possible to recognise the anxiety provoking situations and take control of them. A good example would be if you think you struggle communicating and you find yourself in a social situation: " Oh God, I don't know what to say, feel awkward and it's going to get worse". This is a common theme, people avoiding people altogether because they THINK they have nothing to say! I hope you are able mate to recognise when your anxieties get so bad they become very debilitating leading to a perceived lack of control leading to panic. Take care mate.
 
Hi Everyone,

Toffee passed away this morning at the vets. She had begun to deteriorate over the past fortnight, and that accelerated over the last 2 days. Her weight loss was the single most upsetting and concerning thing. The vet said it could not be explained due to diabetes, and then thought it was due to kidney failure, which was ruled out last week. In the end, she thinks it is most probably cancer and that seems logical to me. I did not want to expose Toffee to any further tests and probes.

I only called the vet this morning, having decided yesterday that it was time to act and do the last thing I could do for her. And it was over within an hour after my phone call. I have been through this experience many times, and there was some comfort in that it was not quite as traumatic as I envisaged, although I know this will hit me hard down the line. Today is about relief primarily.

I am glad I took action, and there is some comfort in my vets assessment that my decision to do something was as well timed as it could have been.

I am in shock really. I have taken the rest of the week off work. But in a sense I don't know what to do with myself now. So I'm on here. I know I will struggle to sleep over the next few nights. I'll have to leave the light on.

It's just a profound sadness really. I have had dogs all my life, they all lived to advanced old age. But I had the gift of 8 1/2 years with Toffee. The last 10 weeks were horrendous. I couldn't eat, I couldn't concentrate on anything on TV. It was just work and looking after Toffee in between.

My beloved furgirl. You are free now, my pet. Free of nasty insulin needles, free of horrible prescription food. I was and am so proud of you.

Sorry to hear mate.
 
Hi and thanks for the response.

To be honest I have not been feeling the best for a couple of years but it has always been something that has come up once in a blue moon, so i kind of ignored it.

However the last few weeks i have not felt very well and had a couple of episodes with from what i have read do sound like panic attacks. However i have been feeling anxious too but its quite hard to distinguish between are the panic attacks leading to anxiety or vice versa or is this even possible. This is where i hope counselling will help.

The strange thing is that i have had nothing different happen in my life (bar the West Ham game) which i think could of bought this on. I think i might of bottled things up too much and also over thinking things which is making it worse. I mean no one is happy with the pandemic but the lack of anything to look forward too cant be a good thing. However I do feel better in talking about it after the weekend which looks like a step forward.

Thanks regarding the anti depressant info i think that it something i will have to talk about with my GP if it gets to that stage. I have been recommended by the GP some herbal Rhodiola tablets to try so think i will give them ago.
Hi mate, I’ve suffered from panic attacks for years and still do, horrible experiences they are, the only thing that eliminated them instantly for me was Valium or Xanax, but try not to go down that route as they are very addictive and a pain to come off, if I feel one coming on now I take deep breaths, long inhales and as deep as possible, your mind is almost forced/tricked to calm down if your body is acting calm, all the best and my messages are always open take care pal
 
Hi blues,

my dad passed the other day of COVID at the age of 63 after battling for a month. The last game I got to watch with him was the 1-0 loss to West Ham which I really think sums Everton up in the 20 years I've watched them with him. I let him know how well we've been doing and how terrible Liverpool had been doing when I went to see him for the last time and I like to think that somewhere inside him he could hear this and had a right old laugh or is having one now in some sort of afterlife (if there is one). It feels like having your duvet ripped off and now you're exposed to the world without this safety net or beacon of guidance and warmth to fall back on, but the feelings for me are dulled slightly having listened to the phone calls from the hospital and understanding how ill he grew to be.

We're particularly upset because last Friday he was managing to sit up on his bed and we spoke to a physio who detailed his physio plans for the next few weeks and we could start bringing clothes in for him etc. he received a message from my mum a few days before that as he came out of comatose and for the first time since waking up they got a response out of him as he tried to speak to her (he had a tracheostomy done so he couldn't talk). It breaks my heart even further than it is thinking about what he might have told her, at this point we were all thinking the long road to a recovery was about to begin before later on that Friday night he suffered a setback and couldn't fight back to where he was.

In time I'll be okay and for the most part I can deal with this - in the 24 years of knowing my dad I didn't see him get particularly upset or knocked down for long, he would always be pulling himself together and being a fantastic source of support for whomever it was who had the problem and I want to embrace and continue this attitude for him and step up the plate. Despite this it's been particularly hard supporting my mum who's having a really tough time naturally, she can't sleep unless she's sat in front of the TV with someone else there, so for the past few nights it's been sitting up until 6am just to make sure I see her get a few hours kip then getting a few hours in for myself. She apologises to me constantly as she now thinks I'm trapped at our parents house as I'll have to stay and support her financially rather than moving out like I was planning to do so - I have no qualms about this as I'd do anything for family, it's a lovely homely house that now feels empty without the huge presence my dad had, unfortunately it will come with the stigma of the "fully grown lad still living in yer ma's spare room" sort of thing but that actually makes me chuckle to myself to think about. She isn't eating so I'm making sure she has a biscuit with her cup of tea or a small portion of whatever I have for my tea. It's been hard to see my Gran as well, the old adage "A parent should never bury their child" rings true here and she lives on her own with dementia, my dad did loads for her. My worries aren't particularly for myself but for my family, I don't know what I can say when my mum starts crying about how her life has already ended and that she's going to be on her own and lonely for the next 20 odd years until she dies as well, or that she won't get invited anywhere as she'll be seen as a spare part etc.

Going back, my dad was a lifelong blue and although this is a typical thing to say, used to stand in the boys pen and was very proud that he was there for THAT game against Munich. Surprisingly he loved Davies and Calvert Lewin going out in the mad outfits, hated Michael Keane even when he's been immense this season, and I am going to miss his cries of frustration when we pass it from the opposition six yard box all the way back to Pickford who then lumps it back up the pitch. I'm going to have to wait until my little nephew gets a bit older before I have some company watching the football again.

He loved a Guinness and particularly enjoyed a single malt whiskey, not a great lover of whiskey myself but I think I'll be watching the game tonight sipping on one and hoping the club that me and my dad bonded over so much can get a memorable one in Roger's name.

Stay safe everyone
 
Hi blues,

my dad passed the other day of COVID at the age of 63 after battling for a month. The last game I got to watch with him was the 1-0 loss to West Ham which I really think sums Everton up in the 20 years I've watched them with him. I let him know how well we've been doing and how terrible Liverpool had been doing when I went to see him for the last time and I like to think that somewhere inside him he could hear this and had a right old laugh or is having one now in some sort of afterlife (if there is one). It feels like having your duvet ripped off and now you're exposed to the world without this safety net or beacon of guidance and warmth to fall back on, but the feelings for me are dulled slightly having listened to the phone calls from the hospital and understanding how ill he grew to be.

We're particularly upset because last Friday he was managing to sit up on his bed and we spoke to a physio who detailed his physio plans for the next few weeks and we could start bringing clothes in for him etc. he received a message from my mum a few days before that as he came out of comatose and for the first time since waking up they got a response out of him as he tried to speak to her (he had a tracheostomy done so he couldn't talk). It breaks my heart even further than it is thinking about what he might have told her, at this point we were all thinking the long road to a recovery was about to begin before later on that Friday night he suffered a setback and couldn't fight back to where he was.

In time I'll be okay and for the most part I can deal with this - in the 24 years of knowing my dad I didn't see him get particularly upset or knocked down for long, he would always be pulling himself together and being a fantastic source of support for whomever it was who had the problem and I want to embrace and continue this attitude for him and step up the plate. Despite this it's been particularly hard supporting my mum who's having a really tough time naturally, she can't sleep unless she's sat in front of the TV with someone else there, so for the past few nights it's been sitting up until 6am just to make sure I see her get a few hours kip then getting a few hours in for myself. She apologises to me constantly as she now thinks I'm trapped at our parents house as I'll have to stay and support her financially rather than moving out like I was planning to do so - I have no qualms about this as I'd do anything for family, it's a lovely homely house that now feels empty without the huge presence my dad had, unfortunately it will come with the stigma of the "fully grown lad still living in yer ma's spare room" sort of thing but that actually makes me chuckle to myself to think about. She isn't eating so I'm making sure she has a biscuit with her cup of tea or a small portion of whatever I have for my tea. It's been hard to see my Gran as well, the old adage "A parent should never bury their child" rings true here and she lives on her own with dementia, my dad did loads for her. My worries aren't particularly for myself but for my family, I don't know what I can say when my mum starts crying about how her life has already ended and that she's going to be on her own and lonely for the next 20 odd years until she dies as well, or that she won't get invited anywhere as she'll be seen as a spare part etc.

Going back, my dad was a lifelong blue and although this is a typical thing to say, used to stand in the boys pen and was very proud that he was there for THAT game against Munich. Surprisingly he loved Davies and Calvert Lewin going out in the mad outfits, hated Michael Keane even when he's been immense this season, and I am going to miss his cries of frustration when we pass it from the opposition six yard box all the way back to Pickford who then lumps it back up the pitch. I'm going to have to wait until my little nephew gets a bit older before I have some company watching the football again.

He loved a Guinness and particularly enjoyed a single malt whiskey, not a great lover of whiskey myself but I think I'll be watching the game tonight sipping on one and hoping the club that me and my dad bonded over so much can get a memorable one in Roger's name.

Stay safe everyone
I am so sorry for your loss. This post is beautiful. You've made me cry. I'm not much younger than your Dad and I am so lucky to still have my 83 year old Dad around. If you are your Dad's legacy, then your kindness and empathy will have made him very proud. He will be watching the match with you tonight. I honestly believe that those we love never really leave us. I often hear my Mum in my head - usually telling me off and saying "you're not going out in that are you?!" or "wearing jeans for work? Really?"
 

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