It's a good point re: Leicester. They did indeed look to be dead under Rodgers, but he turned it around.
I've a feeling he'll get to the start of January barring something disastrous in the remaining post w/c fixtures this year.
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I've a feeling he'll get to the start of January barring something disastrous in the remaining post w/c fixtures this year.
steven
Player Valuation: £35m
The main argument agains this is that Rogers has a track record of being a successful manager. Lampard’s previous experience doesn’t suggest he can get us moving the right way.
Might be wrong of course but it’s risky that he hasn’t been able to improve us much since he joined and we are in a worst position going into Xmas this year than we were under benitez…with us having had pretty favorable fixtures all in all.
NorthernBlue
Player Valuation: £30m
Well he is always hiring anysmal managers (apart from Carlo) which inevitably means they need sacking.
GrandOldSte117
Player Valuation: £20m
Were probably the club that abuses their players the most in the league. It's hardly working, is it?
It's not even our choice. Depends on how the board view things. It may suit them to wait, depending who is available, particularly if the Martinez rumours are true.
I do find the 'Lampard has no track record' narrative a bit odd. He did get Derby to the Play Offs and Chelsea into the Champions league, albeit struggled his second season.
You could argue the two previous experienced and decorated managers we had also looked to utter struggle to impose a style or identity. Results and performances were underwhelming for both.
Similarly, Arteta had a woeful run with Arsenal, looked lost, but turned it around. Arguably with less direct managerial experience.
Context, of course, all plays a part and all we're in different situations. It's not looking good at the moment and it will take a real turnaround to convince. What I'm basically saying is I think he'll be given a chance to do that. But it may not be an extended one.
Yes and it needs to be soon.
Villa got rid of Gerrard who's Villa record is astonishingly better than Frank's here, moved and got a proper manager in who's transformed them already beating two of the top sides in the league.
It's very naïve to think that a new attacker in January changes things completely for Lampard, he's shown very little to suggest he knows how to set this team up for success.
Villa got rid of Gerrard who's Villa record is astonishingly better than Frank's here, moved and got a proper manager in who's transformed them already beating two of the top sides in the league.
It's very naïve to think that a new attacker in January changes things completely for Lampard, he's shown very little to suggest he knows how to set this team up for success.
steven
Player Valuation: £35m
Yeah fair points. I do reckon that Lampard will get the wolves/city/Brighton games…contingency plan will be Martinez imo. It feels like the way this everton board will be thinking.
leicester couldn't afford to sack leicester
due to his contract, his severance package would have been in excess of 10 mil or something
LeeCarsley
Player Valuation: £8m
I don't want him gone but the lack of a style of play is very troubling. Guys like Arteta went into arsenal and used a playstyle regardless of the players available. The least we could do was try that here this season since we could not do it last season. But instead we have no style, no plan, just aimless running about. He needs to fix it because honestly if we lose to that awful Wolves team he should resign immediately.
Regardless, it's worked out for them.
I'd also suggest if there was genuine relegation threat they'd be able to afford it. Or find a way.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Villa have much better players.
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
But this isn't the people's club, it's Moshiris, unfortunately
Gutted Lampard's under achieving and whilst I want stability and a long term stint from a manager it's worrying to think it may be down to the no hoper clash with City after the break.
If that happened it's be unforgivable by the board. If there's any thought in their heads of sacking the man it must be now, right now.
Give someone else the luxury of a pressure free 6 week break to learn about the squad and do their own thing in the January window. Senseless swapping boss's again in January, have we not learned any lessons during this terrrible year?
If that happened it's be unforgivable by the board. If there's any thought in their heads of sacking the man it must be now, right now.
Give someone else the luxury of a pressure free 6 week break to learn about the squad and do their own thing in the January window. Senseless swapping boss's again in January, have we not learned any lessons during this terrrible year?
People will scoff, but I would assume Everton have people watching this forum and if that vote went another way, it would certainly be a factor, IMO.
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