2019/20 Dominic Calvert-Lewin

Undisputed_blue · January 13, 2020

everton1953 said:
Bah! Phooee! Who in their right mind would swop Rashford for DCL? Crimes, cripes (trying hard not to be banned for bad language).

I suspect it would be pointless having an intellectual conversation based on stats with you. Probably the foul language is the best you can offer.

Brisan123 · January 13, 2020

Undisputed_blue said:
I suspect it would be pointless having an intellectual conversation based on stats with you. Probably the foul language is the best you can offer.

I doubt you would find anybody with whom you could have an intellectual conversation on football , based on stats.
They only tell a small part of the story

Mrancelotti · January 13, 2020

Glasshalffull said:
Don't disagree with anything you say in relation to DCL's actual play - good link work, still improving, at least potentially a useful squad player, maybe will even be a good scorer one day. I do disagree a little with what you said about people on this forum, however. There is a significant proportion thinking he is the long term front player and should be accepted as he is, or given more time as a regular starter to become a good goals man.

What some of us think, is that DCL, especially in view of the paucity of other potential scorers in the side (Richarlison excepted), should be replaced in the starting 11 if possible by someone more reliably slotting chances and capable of making his own. Not really much separating the views of most people, but really causing a lot of feeling.

In the long run he is going to be a rotation player/sub.

To be that player our squad needs to improve and we have more critical areas to improve before another striker. A keeper, centre half and midfielder first....

Undisputed_blue · January 13, 2020

Brisan123 said:
I doubt you would find anybody with whom you could have an intellectual conversation on football , based on stats.
They only tell a small part of the story

Of course. The big part of the story is that they're completely clueless.

Mrancelotti · January 13, 2020

evertonarntwe said:
David nugent has played for england

Michael ricketts has played for england

francis Jeffers has played for england

Jay bothroyd has played for engand

you can see where I am going with this?

Peter Crouch played for England and had one of the best goals to games ratios for them..... it's not always your fanboy type players who do well.

Mrancelotti · January 13, 2020

everton1953 said:
Amazing how Rashford rarely gets a mention when striker comparisons are made, or lists of the top English strikers are drawn up. Rashford is light years ahead of DCL and he also cost zilch.

He also got slated by clueless man United fans before third season where he finally got some consistency....

Undisputed_blue · January 13, 2020

Mrancelotti said:
He also got slated by clueless man United fans before third season where he finally got some consistency....

Familiar pattern.

neilsyd · January 13, 2020

It will be interesting to see when the “he’s only young, he’s 22” arguments become redundant. When do players stop improving? Do players get much better after 24 after playing about 150 premier league games? I’m in the middle really, think he’s alright. Good for now but not good for when we are serious about challenging the top four. He’s played over 100 games and he has improved, but do people think he’s going to become one of the best strikers in the premier league in the next two years?

everton1953 · January 13, 2020

Undisputed_blue said:
I suspect it would be pointless having an intellectual conversation based on stats with you. Probably the foul language is the best you can offer.

Utterly pointless as you say. I did avoid foul language though.

Nymzee · January 13, 2020

Anyone with 'everton' in their username appears to be a problem.

everton1953 · January 13, 2020

Nymzee said:
Anyone with 'everton' in their username appears to be a problem.

You would probably prefer "Liverpool" ? or "RS" ?

Gilbert.. · January 13, 2020

neilsyd said:
It will be interesting to see when the “he’s only young, he’s 22” arguments become redundant. When do players stop improving? Do players get much better after 24 after playing about 150 premier league games? I’m in the middle really, think he’s alright. Good for now but not good for when we are serious about challenging the top four. He’s played over 100 games and he has improved, but do people think he’s going to become one of the best strikers in the premier league in the next two years?

Off the top of my head drogba never did much. Then it all seemed to click in his mid 20s.

Nymzee · January 13, 2020

everton1953 said:
You would probably prefer "Liverpool" ? or "RS" ?

If that's who you support, sure.

Undisputed_blue · January 13, 2020

neilsyd said:
It will be interesting to see when the “he’s only young, he’s 22” arguments become redundant. When do players stop improving? Do players get much better after 24 after playing about 150 premier league games? I’m in the middle really, think he’s alright. Good for now but not good for when we are serious about challenging the top four. He’s played over 100 games and he has improved, but do people think he’s going to become one of the best strikers in the premier league in the next two years?

The understanding of the game gets better each year. There's no upper limit to this.

However, there's a peak age curve in terms of physical performance which tails when your legs give up.

Yes, he can become one of the best strikers in the premier league as he's got everything in his locker. He just needs to develop a certain arrogance in his style and be more focus in scoring goals.