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2021/22 Dominic Calvert-Lewin

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Blue_Berry said:
You've made this point over and over Tim, but it's just plain naive.

1. Richie had to be sold before 30th June for us to fulfil our p&s commitments to the PL.

2. These same commitments prevent us from structuring deals where we pay significant amounts upfront (ie. in the new financial year), which significantly restricts our deal making ability for this window.

3. We have (still) a number of superfluous players on high contracts that simply are not going to be bid for in the first 95% of the window. We have to move them on to generate wriggle room to deal for more players - under those same commitments.

4. We are not City, United, RS, Chelsea - we cannot just go out and bid for who we like and expect them to want to come to us. (On this point, I get that neither are WHU, Forest, Leeds etc, but for them points 1-3 above don't apply).

5. Considering 1-4 above, and the universally understood nature of the summer transfer window, the players accessible to us are most likely to become available in the final 5% of the window.

All of the above is public knowledge and is generally accepted. And yet you are still expecting the club to defy those constraints somehow and berate them as 'not trying' if they don't.
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Way too sensible this.....but spot on mate.
 
Blue_Berry said:
You've made this point over and over Tim, but it's just plain naive.

1. Richie had to be sold before 30th June for us to fulfil our p&s commitments to the PL.

2. These same commitments prevent us from structuring deals where we pay significant amounts upfront (ie. in the new financial year), which significantly restricts our deal making ability for this window.

3. We have (still) a number of superfluous players on high contracts that simply are not going to be bid for in the first 95% of the window. We have to move them on to generate wriggle room to deal for more players - under those same commitments.

4. We are not City, United, RS, Chelsea - we cannot just go out and bid for who we like and expect them to want to come to us. (On this point, I get that neither are WHU, Forest, Leeds etc, but for them points 1-3 above don't apply).

5. Considering 1-4 above, and the universally understood nature of the summer transfer window, the players accessible to us are most likely to become available in the final 5% of the window.

All of the above is public knowledge and is generally accepted. And yet you are still expecting the club to defy those constraints somehow and berate them as 'not trying' if they don't.
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Exactly. It's not rocket science.
 

kenada_blue said:
I dunno. I'd still say £40-50mill due to age.

I mean... Chelsea have just paid £20mill for some young lad at Villa who had abar 3 games last season.
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Injury record, six years as a PL player with only 45 goals.

No elite team will be spending decent money on him.
 
Blue_Berry said:
You've made this point over and over Tim, but it's just plain naive.

1. Richie had to be sold before 30th June for us to fulfil our p&s commitments to the PL.

2. These same commitments prevent us from structuring deals where we pay significant amounts upfront (ie. in the new financial year), which significantly restricts our deal making ability for this window.

3. We have (still) a number of superfluous players on high contracts that simply are not going to be bid for in the first 95% of the window. We have to move them on to generate wriggle room to deal for more players - under those same commitments.

4. We are not City, United, RS, Chelsea - we cannot just go out and bid for who we like and expect them to want to come to us. (On this point, I get that neither are WHU, Forest, Leeds etc, but for them points 1-3 above don't apply).

5. Considering 1-4 above, and the universally understood nature of the summer transfer window, the players accessible to us are most likely to become available in the final 5% of the window.

All of the above is public knowledge and is generally accepted. And yet you are still expecting the club to defy those constraints somehow and berate them as 'not trying' if they don't.
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This sums up the multiple problems we have brilliantly. It’s a spiders web of disaster. Just to point out again though, our FFP or P&S situation is not a factor in trying to structure deals with low initial payments.

When we pay the cash instalments has no bearing on the accounts (other than accounting for the remaining liability). The costs hitting each financial period and affecting the P&S rules are just the total cost of the contract divided by length of contract. If we paid zero until the last day of a 4 year contract, a quarter would still hit this years accounts.

It is the media that keep perpetuating this confusion, saying we need to by Cornet on the drip due to P&S and we have proposed embarrassing payment terms etc etc.

The only reason for not wanting to pay large amounts in the initial installment is if we are short of actual cash. Presumably due to our owner having his pocket money sanctioned. Which is another problem that can be added to the list!
 

Blue_Berry said:
You've made this point over and over Tim, but it's just plain naive.

1. Richie had to be sold before 30th June for us to fulfil our p&s commitments to the PL.

2. These same commitments prevent us from structuring deals where we pay significant amounts upfront (ie. in the new financial year), which significantly restricts our deal making ability for this window.

3. We have (still) a number of superfluous players on high contracts that simply are not going to be bid for in the first 95% of the window. We have to move them on to generate wriggle room to deal for more players - under those same commitments.

4. We are not City, United, RS, Chelsea - we cannot just go out and bid for who we like and expect them to want to come to us. (On this point, I get that neither are WHU, Forest, Leeds etc, but for them points 1-3 above don't apply).

5. Considering 1-4 above, and the universally understood nature of the summer transfer window, the players accessible to us are most likely to become available in the final 5% of the window.

All of the above is public knowledge and is generally accepted. And yet you are still expecting the club to defy those constraints somehow and berate them as 'not trying' if they don't.
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Joey66 said:
We paid very little for him unlike some in the present team who we can't give away ......
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That doesn;t make him more valuable to other clubs.

They see it in objective terms: "what do we get for our money?"

The answer is: a player with troublesome injuries and one who needs a lot of service to get not a lot of goals.

He's at best Leicester-class.
 
gutted for Dom but we`re not just a one man team. the main thing done is our defence being better than last season. Myko coming along nicely, Gordon more experienced- he`ll be a monster this season. Dele is like a new signing, who will show us what he`s about. McNeil will chip in with more goals than we expect of him. we may be lacking a `proper` CF but i believe it`ll get sorted one way or another. COYB
 
davek said:
That doesn;t make him more valuable to other clubs.

They see it in objective terms: "what do we get for our money?"

The answer is: a player with troublesome injuries and one who needs a lot of service to get not a lot of goals.

He's at best Leicester-class.
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He costs us very little - injuries happen FGS - we have wasted more money on fitter players... but far too old ....
 
Oddball said:
gutted for Dom but we`re not just a one man team. the main thing done is our defence being better than last season. Myko coming along nicely, Gordon more experienced- he`ll be a monster this season. Dele is like a new signing, who will show us what he`s about. McNeil will chip in with more goals than we expect of him. we may be lacking a `proper` CF but i believe it`ll get sorted one way or another. COYB
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Almost certainly Gana too
 

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