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Duncan Ferguson - The Coach

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Kever10 said:
Well, I knew if someone would take issue with this it would most likely be you. But haters gotta hate I guess.

Like I said in my post, the performance and goal in the Derby was a catalyst for all that followed. That's not to diminish the efforts and contributions of the other players and the other scenarios (Amokachi vs Spurs for instance).

But in the same way that many people believe a Kevin Brock back pass was a turning point in the 83/84 season, winning that Derby was a key moment in 94/95, and Ferguson was pivotal in that.

Unequivocally.

As for other moments, we may not have won any other trophies in that period, much the same way other players never won trophies over the years, but he still gave us good moments and great memories, be it goals, games, performances, and yes, even the odd red card. It might not have been sensible, but he stood for something at a time when we were low, and he showed that he cared.

There are plenty of players who remain heroes for some, for what they meant to people at a specific time. If we are basing it solely on what they won, then you are saying that nobody born after 1995 can have an Everton hero. No-one who looked up to any of the countless other great players or characters who people have loved in periods where we won nothing.

Dave Hickson, Bob Latchford, Martin Dobson, Mick Lyons, Duncan Mckenzie, Peter Beardsley, Andrei Kanchelskis, Gary Speed, Kevin Campbell, Don Hutchison, Wayne Rooney, Tim Cahill, Mikel Arteta, Yakubu, Lukaku, etc. You are dictating that people do not have the right to say any of them were heroes?

You may take issue with some of the other things associated with Duncan, as I already pointed out, but don't tell other people he isn't or wasn't a hero, because during that time, he was.

And all of that, despite what his hater spin machine tries to tell you, is based SOLELY on what he did on the pitch for Everton.
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I have never understood why Dunc was elevated to legendary status.

What he actually did on the pitch was very little.

Yes he was physical and a great threat from set pieces but as an all round centre forward he wasn't great and not in the class of Gray , Sharpe , Royle or Latchford.

He was static , lacked pace , a poor first touch and wasn't a great finisher.

What he did do was give us hope of a "fighters punch " when the ball was pumped up to him and a threat in what was a poor side.

He was often a liability with his disciplinary record.
 

Came across well there....can he inspire the team to a desperately needed win? An ugly 1-0 victory would do for me. He knows he is in this position temporarily, but whatever the arguments about his playing career, he will not lack for committment tomorrow. And the crowd should be right behind him and the team from the off. His player selection may set the mood. He needs some good luck.
 
I’ve was pleasantly surprised at his interview. Far better than I expected. His first spell at the club was before my time and I’ve always considered him a sort off washed up charity case. I’m starting to suspect I’ve been wrong.
 
mellowblue said:
Came across well there....can he inspire the team to a desperately needed win? An ugly 1-0 victory would do for me. He knows he is in this position temporarily, but whatever the arguments about his playing career, he will not lack for committment tomorrow. And the crowd should be right behind him and the team from the off. His player selection may set the mood. He needs some good luck.
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i think you are spot on re player selection, if we see exactly the same kind of line up as recent weeks then its going to kill the mood as we will expect the same kind of result.....he needs to change something so that we have something different to get behind
 

jazzy said:
I have never understood why Dunc was elevated to legendary status.

What he actually did on the pitch was very little.

Yes he was physical and a great threat from set pieces but as an all round centre forward he wasn't great and not in the class of Gray , Sharpe , Royle or Latchford.

He was static , lacked pace , a poor first touch and wasn't a great finisher.

What he did do was give us hope of a "fighters punch " when the ball was pumped up to him and a threat in what was a poor side.

He was often a liability with his disciplinary record.
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He had an excellent touch - you can't mean that as a serious comment. In a series of poor Everton sides he stood out like a dugs baws as a quality footballer, did loads every game to link play from the front. Just unfortunate it was linking play with Idan Tal and Tobias Linderoth.

I'm not eulogising the bloke - he had a terrible attitude when he was injured which led to a plague of fitness problems. But let's have this right, he was a very talented player and regularly laid it on the line for the Royal Blue Jersey.
 
John Barton said:
Really?
are you sure you ever watched him play?
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yes perhaps not enough but that was down to himself. mind you it was many years ago and I could be wrong but my overall memory is of a mediocre player in a bad side who had a bad disciplinary and injury record.
 

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