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MikeH72 · Friday at 1:32 PM

Wat Tyler said:
After him leaving, him spending his time slagging off the club on any media outlet was the most obvious outcome since Large Samuel.

Slagging off the fans*

Gilbert.. · Friday at 1:32 PM

davek said:
Well he's claimed a lot in that interview: basically that the players had begun to doubt themselves and that's why he left. If that isn't true he's left himself exposed, and I doubt he's claimed that without there being some foundation to it.

I think that's more than enough, tbf.

He came into this club when it was destined for the Championship. The fact we're in relatively good shape now is down to him largely.

Simply not true

Wat Tyler · Friday at 1:34 PM

blue to the bone said:

Still boggles the mind that the club fed to their pet journalists the completely made up story that some man put a lady in a headlock. No-one held to account for a disgusting slur on the fanbase. And here we have soft lad continuing the narrative that the board were getting threats on their lives. Liars.

davek · Friday at 1:37 PM

Gilbert.. said:
Simply not true

What?!

We were all over the place.

davek · Friday at 1:38 PM

Looks like there's no non-disclosure clauses in Dyche's compensation package anyway.

COYBL25 · Friday at 1:43 PM

davek said:
So the truth has come out in the end: the players believed they couldn't handle the pressure and and so Dyche took the decision to leave them in the hands of another coach who might get the extra bit of confidence out to save the club. A story that can be backed up by Moyes himself.

The more I hear about this feller the more I respect him.

So, you respect a coward.

Given you voted for the cos play cat, toe licking homophobe, not a surprise really.

davek · Friday at 1:46 PM

COYBL25 said:
So, you respect a coward.

Given you voted for the cos play cat, toe licking homophobe, not a surprise really.

The person who knows their own limitations can also be wise and courageous too.

To suggest Moyes could take over from him to get more out of players who'd lost their nerve underlines he's put the club before himself.

Of course, if any of that isn't true we'll soon hear about it because he's publicly stated all that.

Somehow though I dont think we will hear any contradictory statements.

I'm sure Moyes will be quizzed about it before the derby.

Gilbert.. · Friday at 1:49 PM

davek said:
What?!

We were all over the place.

We were all over the place with benitez. All over the place with lampard. Not relegated.
He took over in january and not adrift. We won 1 game in 11 before the Bournemouth game. As has been shown since Moyes came in. Wins get you up the table. Not draws.
We've been very fortunate that the clubs coming up from the championship have struggled so much. Esp this season. This season until he left is on record as one of the worst ive ever seen. We'd scored 15 goals in 19 games before he left. Thats laughable. Moyes doubled that in a few weeks.
Thank God for the bottom 3. It was saving us week by week until he left.
He got into some Everton fans heads that he was the saviour of this club with his constast drivel to the media.
He wasnt.

windymiller · Friday at 1:49 PM

GrandOldTeam said:
Hello.

I think you either have a short, or selective memory. Or, you're blinkered in anger towards Dyche.

My opinion has been consistent.

Before that season started, I shared a view we'd struggle;

Just before we then achieved our worst ever points total on our history going onto Feb, with a total no team had stayed up with from before, I shared reason why I think we were down - right here. We got worse after that too losing Southampton (H) and West Ham (A).

You actually agreed, replying to my thread 'Why I Think Everton Will Be Relegated' on 19th Jan 2023 with;

The week after, and a week or so before we hired Dyche you'd defend Lampard, like;

So the week or so before Dyche, you were saying we were down because we're crap. You'd also regularly defended Lampard for not having the players.

My view has remained that, a view you shared - it hasn't changed because Dyche isn't as fashionable as Lampard.

We stayed up.

If I'm saying before the season started under Lampard we'll be relegation fodder, and going into Feb under Lampard that we'll go down - then yes, I'm going to give Dyche credit for preventing that.

You can sneer at that effort now, downplay it as Dyche's fault for not winning enough with a team that lost 11 in 14 before he come in before Bournemouth - but I'll give Dyche credit. The only time I felt we were going down, he come in and prevented that. If you go back and review your posts in the months before Dyche, maybe you would give him credit too.

[Edit] Oh and @windymiller if someone calls me a wum/credentials on being an Evertonian, I'll gladly review the archives.

What'd I do?! I've been staying well out of this thread. I think this is my second post in it!

Saint Domingo · Friday at 1:51 PM

Gilbert.. said:
We were all over the place with benitez. All over the place with lampard. Not relegated.
He took over in january and not adrift. We won 1 game in 11 before the Bournemouth game. As has been shown since Moyes came in. Wins get you up the table. Not draws.
We've been very fortunate that the clubs coming up from the championship have struggled so much. Esp this season. This season until he left is on record as one of the worst ive ever seen. We'd scored 15 goals in 19 games before he left. Thats laughable. Moyes doubled that in a few weeks.
Thank God for the bottom 3. It was saving us week by week until he left.
He got into some Everton fans heads that he was the saviour of this club with his constast drivel to the media.
He wasnt.

Funny how 19th and 2 points away from safety after 20 games isn’t cut adrift

But 1 point above the relegation zone with a game in hand after 19 games is definitely getting relegated.

Anyone with eyes can see we were in a far far worse position in January 23 than we were in January 25.

davek · Friday at 1:56 PM

Gilbert.. said:
We were all over the place with benitez. All over the place with lampard. Not relegated.
He took over in january and not adrift. We won 1 game in 11 before the Bournemouth game. As has been shown since Moyes came in. Wins get you up the table. Not draws.
We've been very fortunate that the clubs coming up from the championship have struggled so much. Esp this season. This season until he left is on record as one of the worst ive ever seen. We'd scored 15 goals in 19 games before he left. Thats laughable. Moyes doubled that in a few weeks.
Thank God for the bottom 3. It was saving us week by week until he left.
He got into some Everton fans heads that he was the saviour of this club with his constast drivel to the media.
He wasnt.

...and an injury crisis and no money, in fact selling players...

Betomania · Friday at 1:56 PM

He slapped an employee of the club

MikeH72 · Friday at 1:58 PM

davek said:
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...and an injury crisis and no money, in fact selling players...

3 points off 14th. How many points off 14th were we when he left?

davek · Friday at 2:00 PM

Betomania said:
He slapped an employee of the club

davek · Friday at 2:02 PM

MikeH72 said:
3 points off 14th. How many points off 14th were we when he left?

There's always some stat that can be twisted to suggest it was 'fine'.

The feller did a solid 6/10 job overall and saved our necks in two of the seasons he was here.

Average manager, but I like and respect him.

I think many or most do too.