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Saint Domingo said:
Everton fan walks into a casino with a chip that says PL survival and safe passage to new owners and new stadium, cost of the chip is keeping Dyche with some dour football for a few seasons in the bottom half.

The three options are:

You walk out with the chip and enjoy new owners, new stadium as a PL club.

You throw the chip on the roulette table for a new manager, you might land on a red that loses you everything. EVERYTHING. Literally the liquidation of the club. Relegation, administration, points deduction, fire sale of assets, no takeover, subsequent relegation, sale of new stadium and lease arrangement, possibly the winding up the club and a new co. being formed.

Or you land on black and you get an 11th placed finish with some more passing in your own half.

Thankfully Everton chose the first option and stuck with Dyche until the takeover.


Meanwhile in cloud cuckoo land:
ā€˜I want to be entertained and enjoy my Saturdays, NSNO not my managerā€™

Some of you were literally willing to bet the entire existence of the club for a bit more entertainment on a match day.
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This pretty much wraps the argument up.
 
Neiler said:
That's fair mate, i agree i think he failed the audition this season, we would have moved on in June anyway.

I think we would have stayed up any way personally - isnt there some stat that even if he got 0 point between now and when he left wed still be out of the relegation places - i think we would have maintained the point a game over the rest of the season.

Lets not forget he wasn't fired - he more or less left - so there were obviously structural benefits to keeping him and why TFG wanted to - personally i believe his position became untenable for a couple of reasons and said as much before he left the club - if i was him id have walked away as well.

I guess the question is what are we achieving now - nothing really - wel go up a place of two maybe - we enjoy Goodsion coming to an end and a break from a relegation battle and ease of fears and anxieties - but really we are marking games off and its a bounce season really. Maybe that's enough or there is value in getting Moyes feet under the table early - but im not sure its a kick in the backside to where we have been - we've started to draw many games again - which seems to be this teams mean - will we get close to topping the 48 points from last season..............we might!
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First paragraph - I agree.

Second paragraph - I also think that we would have stayed up but nobody, literally nobody, would have predicted that the form of Ipswich and Leicester would have fallen off a cliff to the extent it has. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. We were on 17 points after 19 games so not sure why you say 'we would have maintained the point a game over the rest of the season'. 17 out of 19 is not a point a game.

Fourth paragraph - after being on 17 points after 19 games we were never going to achieve anything of substance this season BUT we, as a fanbase, can rest easy and enjoy what's left of the season instead of having to brick ourselves every time Ipswich score a goal. To achieve 48 points Moyes would have had to get 31 points from 19 games which equates to a 62 point season. That number of points would have achieved 5th, 7th, 6th, 6th and 7th over the last 5 seasons. 48 points isn't and wasn't going to happen.
 
PITA said:
First paragraph - I agree.

Second paragraph - I also think that we would have stayed up but nobody, literally nobody, would have predicted that the form of Ipswich and Leicester would have fallen off a cliff to the extent it has. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. We were on 17 points after 19 games so not sure why you say 'we would have maintained the point a game over the rest of the season'. 17 out of 19 is not a point a game.

Fourth paragraph - after being on 17 points after 19 games we were never going to achieve anything of substance this season BUT we, as a fanbase, can rest easy and enjoy what's left of the season instead of having to brick ourselves every time Ipswich score a goal. To achieve 48 points Moyes would have had to get 31 points from 19 games which equates to a 62 point season. That number of points would have achieved 5th, 7th, 6th, 6th and 7th over the last 5 seasons. 48 points isn't and wasn't going to happen.
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People are also incapable of understanding the butterfly effect.

If Everton didnt gain as many points, the teams below us would have had more to play for and might have even gained more points.

Moyes took away their hope.
 

PITA said:
First paragraph - I agree.

Second paragraph - I also think that we would have stayed up but nobody, literally nobody, would have predicted that the form of Ipswich and Leicester would have fallen off a cliff to the extent it has. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. We were on 17 points after 19 games so not sure why you say 'we would have maintained the point a game over the rest of the season'. 17 out of 19 is not a point a game.

Fourth paragraph - after being on 17 points after 19 games we were never going to achieve anything of substance this season BUT we, as a fanbase, can rest easy and enjoy what's left of the season instead of having to brick ourselves every time Ipswich score a goal. To achieve 48 points Moyes would have had to get 31 points from 19 games which equates to a 62 point season. That number of points would have achieved 5th, 7th, 6th, 6th and 7th over the last 5 seasons. 48 points isn't and wasn't going to happen.
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Simply a PPG is his managerial average here and elsewhere - its actually more then a PPG, but ill round down.

Its why i said yesterday - what we have really achieved is to relieve fear and anxieties around a set of our supporter base. I'm not saying that's a bad thing and its ok with Goodison etc, it is what it is. I don't personally see it as being hugely substantial, its a bit of a vacuum and a bounce season just marking off games, I'm a huge Moyes fan mind.

The 48 points is curious shows what a great effort last season was really, especially given limits, adversity and context. ;)
 
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Complete and utter tosh manager.
 
Neiler said:
Simply its his managerial average here and elsewhere - its actually more then a PPG, but ill round down.

Its why i said yesterday - what we have really achieved is to relieve fear and anxieties around a set of our supporter base. I'm not saying that's a bad thing and its ok with Goodison etc, it is what it is. I don't personally see it as being hugely substantial, its a bit of a vacuum and a bounce season just marking off games, I'm a huge Moyes fan mind.

The 48 points is curious shows what a great effort last season was really. ;)
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Even @MikeH72 would agree that last season was a great effort.

The issue is this season. We were awful and in real danger, at the time, of going down. BTW, the point a game that he has achieved over his career counts for nothing. The Premier League relegate teams based on points earned in a given season not on the manager's average over his career.
 

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