ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 2

[roydo]

Personally I think it is important to point out when some of the more vocal posters are posting half truths or downright lies. I also think it does us no favours as a fan base to allow certain individuals to continually propagate ridiculous conspiracy theories.

Go on Radio 4 then! Christ, its a football forum. Its what football supporters do. Some, granted get a bit too exorcised at times, but hey, thats the nature of the beast. I dont believe on conspiracy theories and refs taking bungs personally, but I do think Sala cheats, (and gets away with it and never gets called up on it). I do think they have been spawny to the max this season, I do think they get preferential treatment from the media, (which IS full of kopites/chase clicks), and I hope they fail miserably so my life is better. And theirs is worse.

And I wouldnt call out any Blue who feels similar.

(They also have a pretty poor record all things racist)

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

This thread is more XCT.
eXpected Conspiracy Theories.

Luckily we have some posters who manage to exceed XCT day in day out.

Decent band in their day.

 

[Baileyjon]

Go on Radio 4 then! Christ, its a football forum. Its what football supporters do. Some, granted get a bit too exorcised at times, but hey, thats the nature of the beast. I dont believe on conspiracy theories and refs taking bungs personally, but I do think Sala cheats, (and gets away with it and never gets called up on it). I do think they have been spawny to the max this season, I do think they get preferential treatment from the media, (which IS full of kopites/chase clicks), and I hope they fail miserably so my life is better. And theirs is worse.

And I wouldnt call out any Blue who feels similar.

(They also have a pretty poor record all things racist)

Agree with most of that. I am not sure about Salah not being called on cheating though.

 

[Billysgingham.]

It pains me to defend them and attack fellow supporters but there has to be some limits. Posters shouldn't be allowed to post things

Go on Radio 4 then! Christ, its a football forum. Its what football supporters do. Some, granted get a bit too exorcised at times, but hey, thats the nature of the beast. I dont believe on conspiracy theories and refs taking bungs personally, but I do think Sala cheats, (and gets away with it and never gets called up on it). I do think they have been spawny to the max this season, I do think they get preferential treatment from the media, (which IS full of kopites/chase clicks), and I hope they fail miserably so my life is better. And theirs is worse.

And I wouldnt call out any Blue who feels similar.

(They also have a pretty poor record all things racist)

*Salah*

 

[Minimeister]

It pains me to defend them and attack fellow supporters but there has to be some limits. Posters shouldn't be allowed to post things that simply aren't true or worse inflammatory. It just becomes a race to the bottom. As you say they are doing well and it is hard to find ways of poking fun at them. That though shouldn't allow this thread to become a 'I hate them the most competition'.

If you look at my post history I didn't post in this thread at first but since calling out a liar in here any post I make in other threads just results in accusations of being a kopite. Surely it should be possible to act as a Devil's advocate on GOT without accusations of being a kopite.

Personally I think it is important to point out when some of the more vocal posters are posting half truths or downright lies. I also think it does us no favours as a fan base to allow certain individuals to continually propagate ridiculous conspiracy theories.

hahahahahahaha take your shin pads off and your captains arm band you bad weirdo.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

Agree with most of that. I am not sure about Salah not being called on cheating though.

he's not called out enough or it highlighted enough to stop it though, in fact the opposite is done from the r/s pundits who cant wait to make the merest touch a justification of him going down like his legs have been amputated

 

[Blues Harp]

How does "XG" work ? Is there a formula? And if there is,what relevance is it to this thread? How about an XDive formula ....more appropriate I would have thought.... lollol

 

[roydo]

Agree with most of that. I am not sure about Salah not being called on cheating though.

CBA digging them out, but other players are described as "diving", Sala routinely "Goes down easily"

Its the same kinda distinction that Sterling highlighted, (though not as important) when he pointed out when the Mail described a young white player buying his mum a house as a good deed, the young black player did the same and was described as flash and all that is wrong with football.

Kinda how you choose to read stuff.

 

[summerisle]

In the spirit of this thread Liverpool are a bunch of diving cheats, with Salah being the worst of the lot. All refs are basically closet reds who are in on the conspiracy. Whilst because we are out of the top 6 we never get any decisions and the FA hate us.

Since Salah arrived in the Premier League. Penalties awarded to Liverpool in the League 11. Penalties awarded to Everton 13.

Actually, it's 14 and 10, never mind.

Premier League - Penalties received

Diese Statistik der Premier League gibt Aufschluss, welcher Verein die meisten Elfmeter in der 24/25 erhalten hat und es wird zusätzlich die Erfolgsquote angezeigt.

www.transfermarkt.com

Premier League - Penalties received

Diese Statistik der Premier League gibt Aufschluss, welcher Verein die meisten Elfmeter in der 24/25 erhalten hat und es wird zusätzlich die Erfolgsquote angezeigt.

www.transfermarkt.com

 

[N.S.N.O.]

I don't understand how his comments actually got a bbc story. Nearly every manager will say something like that.

Not only that but it was the top story on the BBC football website....

 

[Baileyjon]

CBA digging them out, but other players are described as "diving", Sala routinely "Goes down easily"

Its the same kinda distinction that Sterling highlighted, (though not as important) when he pointed out when the Mail described a young white player buying his mum a house as a good deed, the young black player did the same and was described as flash and all that is wrong with football.

Kinda how you choose to read stuff.

In my mind a dive is when a player goes down when there is no contact or drags his leg and initiates the contact. I think Salah is an example of the modern breed of forward who goes down after minimal contact when they could probably stay on their feet. So I think objectively it is fair to label Salah as someone goes down easy rather than a diver.

With regard to Sterling I think it is also true that foreign players get called out for diving or going down easy whilst their English counterparts tend to get away with it. If you look at the rs I can't see the difference between what Owen, Suarez and Salah did differently in regards to winning penalties but only two of them got called out on it.

 

[roydo]

In my mind a dive is when a player goes down when there is no contact or drags his leg and initiates the contact. I think Salah is an example of the modern breed of forward who goes down after minimal contact when they could probably stay on their feet. So I think objectively it is fair to label Salah as someone goes down easy rather than a diver.

With regard to Sterling I think it is also true that foreign players get called out for diving or going down easy whilst their English counterparts tend to get away with it. If you look at the rs I can't see the difference between what Owen, Suarez and Salah did differently in regards to winning penalties but only two of them got called out on it.

Well, check out their recent match at home. He went down with NO contact at all, and radio silence ensued. He is a cheat.

My Sterling point was one showing inherent racism in parts of the UK media which he highlighted. He needed to highlight it because it was just accepted as the norm. Salah diving is accepted as the norm, ergo, he does not get called a cheat, when evidence shows he is. Same disease.

 

[PITA]

Well, check out their recent match at home. He went down with NO contact at all, and radio silence ensued. He is a cheat.

My Sterling point was one showing inherent racism in parts of the UK media which he highlighted. He needed to highlight it because it was just accepted as the norm. Salah diving is accepted as the norm, ergo, he does not get called a cheat, when evidence shows he is. Same disease.

He’s not a cheat. He’s a dirty RS protected cheat.

 

[johnblue23]

It's a conspiracy I tells ya.

Liverpool FC fans fume after Man City victory

Liverpool fans were far from pleased with one Manchester United player.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

I suppose the conspiracy is that certain teams haven't taken points of City.

Leicester - 3 points off city with one game against them.

Newcastle - 3 points in two games

Chelsea - 3 points in two games

Palace - 3 points in two games

Liverpool 1 point in two games.

I think the FA should investigate Lfc who haven't turned up against city so I suppose they are part of the conspiracy.

 

[Baileyjon]

Well, check out their recent match at home. He went down with NO contact at all, and radio silence ensued. He is a cheat.

My Sterling point was one showing inherent racism in parts of the UK media which he highlighted. He needed to highlight it because it was just accepted as the norm. Salah diving is accepted as the norm, ergo, he does not get called a cheat, when evidence shows he is. Same disease.

I am not sure which match you are talking about. If it was the Chelsea game then replays showed Luiz did kick him, almost certainly not enough contact to bring him down but still contact.

I am not sure how you can link Sterling and Salah, mention racism and then not acknowledge that people of the Islamic faith also suffer from racism.

Lastly on the cheating point perhaps the reason Salah doesn't get called a cheat is because all footballers cheat. As I mentioned earlier everytime the ball goes out of play both teams claim the throw in. Players hold at every set piece, teams kill counter attacks with so called professional fouls. It is endemic in the game.