ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 2

[onlyme]

I wouldn't normally say this but sod it he's a RS, so he deserves what's coming. Report him to the school, he'll get into trouble for that, it's basically bullying.

Problem is he's still got a year left at this school, so he doesn't want me to

 

[Toast]

My 15yr old was grabbed by his Kopite PE teacher who forced a RS scarf on him whilst all the other kids laughed and filmed his humiliation.
I wasn't aware that public humiliation was part of the school curriculum.
Now if the result had gone the way and my lad had put a Barcelona scarf on a kid much younger than him while all the other kids laughed and filmed it then I'm certain I would have got a phone call from the school and rightly so.
I'm sure the teacher will claim it's only 'banter' but I'm feckin fuming.

Get him sacked.

Then find him and strangle him with the scarf.

 

[davek]

Also if City beat Brighton then they have to mentally get over losing the league by a point. That will be a big psychological blow and they aren't that easy to overcome.

Spot on mate.

Great season...no trophy...very good opponent to overcome on a neutral pitch.

Over to them after Sunday. The partying will have been done on the "greatest ever comeback" and they have the hard yards to make.

 

[anjelikaferrett]

My 15yr old was grabbed by his Kopite PE teacher who forced a RS scarf on him whilst all the other kids laughed and filmed his humiliation.
I wasn't aware that public humiliation was part of the school curriculum.
Now if the result had gone the way and my lad had put a Barcelona scarf on a kid much younger than him while all the other kids laughed and filmed it then I'm certain I would have got a phone call from the school and rightly so.
I'm sure the teacher will claim it's only 'banter' but I'm feckin fuming.

Report the teacher. That's shocking. I work in safeguarding and I've stopped people working for similar behaviour! Abuse of position of trust - power differential. all that stuff.

 

[bol-uk]

Wow, that's messed up. I got bullied in school for many reasons and supporting Everton was one of them, and if that had happened to me I'd have slashed my arms to ribbons.

Sorry to hear that mate.

 

[bol-uk]

My 15yr old was grabbed by his Kopite PE teacher who forced a RS scarf on him whilst all the other kids laughed and filmed his humiliation.
I wasn't aware that public humiliation was part of the school curriculum.
Now if the result had gone the way and my lad had put a Barcelona scarf on a kid much younger than him while all the other kids laughed and filmed it then I'm certain I would have got a phone call from the school and rightly so.
I'm sure the teacher will claim it's only 'banter' but I'm feckin fuming.

This has to be sorted mate, cannot let that go.

 

[onlyme]

Wow!!!

Mate, i would be at those school gates to find that teacher that did that!!!!!

My thoughts too but the missus begged me not to. Revenge is a dish best served cold, so she says.
Anyway my lad has gone to the u21s game tonight, we're better cos we don't need national TV to tell us we're the best.

 

[bol-uk]

"...There hasn't been a 2nd leg thrown away in Liverpool this convincing since Paul McCartney had a blazing row with Heather Mills..."

 

[bcblue1878]

Argghhhhh....... Talkcrapsport have played "that" dirge after every commercial break including that bellend Carragher singing a full verse of it. Plassie idiots (not fans) of other teams phoning in loving them, probably Kopites like HongKongToffee pretending to be anything but Reds.
It cuts to the Moose in Amsterdam with Spurs fans asking them about the shoite and if they want to send congratulations, more about them than thier own team that are playing tonight...

Even the likes of Bob Mills whose usually sane has started waxing long "Carla Lane" style pseudo-nonsense monologues about them, this is gonna be long, long, long three and a half weeks ahead

Would normally listen to some of the Alan Brazil breakfast show in the morning - not today, it didn’t even get switched on! Likewise Sky Sports news hasn’t been in all day, and if it’s come up on any news channels i’ve muted it or turned it over!

 

[Old Blue 2]

My 15yr old was grabbed by his Kopite PE teacher who forced a RS scarf on him whilst all the other kids laughed and filmed his humiliation.
I wasn't aware that public humiliation was part of the school curriculum.
Now if the result had gone the way and my lad had put a Barcelona scarf on a kid much younger than him while all the other kids laughed and filmed it then I'm certain I would have got a phone call from the school and rightly so.
I'm sure the teacher will claim it's only 'banter' but I'm feckin fuming.

Are you aware of the law?

Trespass to the person​

The general principle is that a trespass to the person must be a direct and intentional act, while if it was indirect or unintentional the tort of negligence is more appropriate, as established in Letang v Cooper. The tort of trespass to the person contains three possible types; assault, battery and false imprisonment.

Assault
In English law, an assault means to act in such a way that the claimant or victim apprehends the application of immediate unlawful force upon themselves. The key elements of the tort are therefore that the defendant acts, and does so in such a way that the claimant is put in fear of "immediate physical violence". There is no requirement that actual damage be caused. In R v Costanza, the courts held that threats made by a stalker could be assault, while in R v Ireland, the House of Lords said that in the right situation (specifically, harassing phone calls) silence could be enough. In some situations an act which would otherwise be assault can be mitigated by the language used. In Tuberville v Savage, the defendant reached for his sword and told the claimant that "if it were not [court] time, I would not take such language from you"; it was held that despite the threatening gesture, this meant the claimant was not in immediate danger. The actions must give the claimant reasonable expectation that the defendant is going to use violence; if a fist was raised in front of the claimant, it could be enough. If the fist was raised from inside a police van following arrest, it would not.

Battery
Battery is defined as "the intentional and direct application of force to another person", and has three elements; force, direct application and intent. The courts have also added a requirement of "hostility" or lack of consent in many cases. As with assault, there is no need to show that damage was caused. Any application of physical contact, regardless of harm caused, can constitute force. In Collins v Wilcock, a female police officer took hold of a woman's arm, intending to talk to her on suspicion of soliciting contrary to the Street Offences Act 1959. The woman scratched the female police officer's arm. As the female police officer had gone beyond her duties in grabbing the woman (since she did not intend to charge her with an offence, but was still using force) it was held that this constituted "force". Goff LJ wrote that the fundamental principle is that any person's body is inviolate, except in situations where the bodily contact "[falls] within a general exception embracing all physical contact which is generally acceptable in the ordinary conduct of daily life".

Report it to the Police, and tell them that you want to press charges. It is basically an assault on a minor. DO NOT let them fob you off. Bypass the school, they will do nothing for you, other than tell you they have admonished the teacher.

 

[Toast]

Are you aware of the law?

Trespass to the person​

The general principle is that a trespass to the person must be a direct and intentional act, while if it was indirect or unintentional the tort of negligence is more appropriate, as established in Letang v Cooper. The tort of trespass to the person contains three possible types; assault, battery and false imprisonment.

Assault
In English law, an assault means to act in such a way that the claimant or victim apprehends the application of immediate unlawful force upon themselves. The key elements of the tort are therefore that the defendant acts, and does so in such a way that the claimant is put in fear of "immediate physical violence". There is no requirement that actual damage be caused. In R v Costanza, the courts held that threats made by a stalker could be assault, while in R v Ireland, the House of Lords said that in the right situation (specifically, harassing phone calls) silence could be enough. In some situations an act which would otherwise be assault can be mitigated by the language used. In Tuberville v Savage, the defendant reached for his sword and told the claimant that "if it were not [court] time, I would not take such language from you"; it was held that despite the threatening gesture, this meant the claimant was not in immediate danger. The actions must give the claimant reasonable expectation that the defendant is going to use violence; if a fist was raised in front of the claimant, it could be enough. If the fist was raised from inside a police van following arrest, it would not.

Battery
Battery is defined as "the intentional and direct application of force to another person", and has three elements; force, direct application and intent. The courts have also added a requirement of "hostility" or lack of consent in many cases. As with assault, there is no need to show that damage was caused. Any application of physical contact, regardless of harm caused, can constitute force. In Collins v Wilcock, a female police officer took hold of a woman's arm, intending to talk to her on suspicion of soliciting contrary to the Street Offences Act 1959. The woman scratched the female police officer's arm. As the female police officer had gone beyond her duties in grabbing the woman (since she did not intend to charge her with an offence, but was still using force) it was held that this constituted "force". Goff LJ wrote that the fundamental principle is that any person's body is inviolate, except in situations where the bodily contact "[falls] within a general exception embracing all physical contact which is generally acceptable in the ordinary conduct of daily life".

Report it to the Police, and tell them that you want to press charges. It is basically an assault on a minor. DO NOT let them fob you off.

And then strangle him with a scarf ?

 

[Tea_drinker]

After the hoo-ha over the city v spurs quarter I'd been somewhat foolishly under the impression that VAR was now in operation for champions league. My benighted ignorance on this was brought to clarification when Robertson pushed a seated messi two handedly on the head off the ball and no VAR action was deemed necessary.

 

[dannyboy]

My 15yr old was grabbed by his Kopite PE teacher who forced a RS scarf on him whilst all the other kids laughed and filmed his humiliation.
I wasn't aware that public humiliation was part of the school curriculum.
Now if the result had gone the way and my lad had put a Barcelona scarf on a kid much younger than him while all the other kids laughed and filmed it then I'm certain I would have got a phone call from the school and rightly so.
I'm sure the teacher will claim it's only 'banter' but I'm feckin fuming.

As a teacher myself, I would never ever do that to a kid. You know it what it boils down to though? The exact same type of behaviour that ended up with people being lashed into fountains last week.

'oooohhhh it's just a laugh lad. Bit of banter,' they will say, yet if it happened to any single of those bell ends all hell would break loose.

They're so caught up in the cult of it all, they have no self awareness whatsoever. Hope you complain, mate.

 

[Billysgingham.]

My 15yr old was grabbed by his Kopite PE teacher who forced a RS scarf on him whilst all the other kids laughed and filmed his humiliation.
I wasn't aware that public humiliation was part of the school curriculum.
Now if the result had gone the way and my lad had put a Barcelona scarf on a kid much younger than him while all the other kids laughed and filmed it then I'm certain I would have got a phone call from the school and rightly so.
I'm sure the teacher will claim it's only 'banter' but I'm feckin fuming.

I would find out where the teacher lived and stuff the scarf down his throat, and see if he found it funny.

 

[tommytowne]

Would normally listen to some of the Alan Brazil breakfast show in the morning - not today, it didn’t even get switched on! Likewise Sky Sports news hasn’t been in all day, and if it’s come up on any news channels i’ve muted it or turned it over!

That works for me.