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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 2

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DDV said:
No, it was the posts about opposing fans singing anti working class songs about Scousers. And some people on here thinking its bantz. It's not. It's loads of middle class [Poor language removed] and Gammons doing the singing. The type who would piss on a homeless person on their works Xmas night out. As a Socialist, (so yes, a red!) I'm finding the defence of the bellends singing these songs disappointing. (To answer your whatabouterry, obviously its wrong. And it's Shankly, by the way.)
When you say 'Everton Fans', you mean the cast of Bread?
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All the more the merrier.



I used to love Bread.
 

the way that mural of klopp is being talked about in our office you would think banksy rocked up in the night and did it.

it has the new balance advertising slogan on and the new balance badge is featured more prominently than the club crest. it is an advert, bought and paid for by the kit sponsor. it is nothing to do with 'red pashun'.
 
DDV said:
No, it was the posts about opposing fans singing anti working class songs about Scousers. And some people on here thinking its bantz. It's not. It's loads of middle class [Poor language removed] and Gammons doing the singing. The type who would piss on a homeless person on their works Xmas night out. As a Socialist, (so yes, a red!) I'm finding the defence of the bellends singing these songs disappointing. (To answer your whatabouterry, obviously its wrong. And it's Shankly, by the way.)
When you say 'Everton Fans', you mean the cast of Bread?
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You mean well behaved Everton fans, as oppose to the shameful history of those across the park
 
DDV said:
No, it was the posts about opposing fans singing anti working class songs about Scousers. And some people on here thinking its bantz. It's not. It's loads of middle class [Poor language removed] and Gammons doing the singing. The type who would piss on a homeless person on their works Xmas night out. As a Socialist, (so yes, a red!) I'm finding the defence of the bellends singing these songs disappointing. (To answer your whatabouterry, obviously its wrong. And it's Shankly, by the way.)
When you say 'Everton Fans', you mean the cast of Bread?
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So you're saying Everton supporters can't be socialists? Do you even live anywhere near Merseyside? My guess is no.
 
canuckblue said:
So you're saying Everton supporters can't be socialists? Do you even live anywhere near Merseyside? My guess is no.
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Where have I come anywhere near saying that? Obviously a ridiculous assertion. I'm from Scotland Road, whatever that's got to do with it? Where you live canuckblue?
 

Borussin said:
Really? News to me!

He's never said he wouldn't do the job, and did interview for it the same time he interviewed for the dortmund job, but other than that time he's never made a push for it . And now, wouldn't even make sense for him to take it.
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Why did Klopp leave Dortmund mate? Could Dortmund have kept him?
 
Harryflashman said:
Sorry mate Former of the Conservative party and a right wing tory mp , both kopites and there are plenty of them. Safe to say they aren’t socialists .
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That's why it boggles the mind for our newest lurker to say what he did. But give him credit for at least learning how to use a keyboard, being challenged like he is.
 

DDV said:
No, it was the posts about opposing fans singing anti working class songs about Scousers. And some people on here thinking its bantz. It's not. It's loads of middle class [Poor language removed] and Gammons doing the singing. The type who would piss on a homeless person on their works Xmas night out. As a Socialist, (so yes, a red!) I'm finding the defence of the bellends singing these songs disappointing. (To answer your whatabouterry, obviously its wrong. And it's Shankly, by the way.)
When you say 'Everton Fans', you mean the cast of Bread?
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The songs are out of order mate. We had the same songs sung at us at City by a greater number of fans. There was a report out this week that showed 27% of ids in Manchester living in "acute poverty"-the highest in the country I believe. I remember when I was teaching a few years back and it was pretty grim for kids then, so dread to think how people's lives are now. So yes it's a moronic chant and completely self defeating.

That being said so to are Danny Murphy's comments about Evertonians and scousers being on benefits and doing so fraudulently not the same thing? All backed up by dozens of Kopites on twitter (and shamefully some from Liverpool) laughing along at them and resorting to their usual abusive tone when questioned on it, or merely trotting out the "bitter" hashtag (yes in their head standing up for a city's reputation makes you a bitter, but the Tory mindset has rotted to every fibre of that club, starting with the statue of prominent Tories outside the ground).

If singing songs about scouser needing feeding is out of order, so too is "having a joke" and suggesting Evertonian's are all on benefits and fraudulently claiming benefits is also out of order. Yet from what I can see, most reds think the latter is a great joke and those who get offended are fair game for secondary victimisation online. Without failing to see how the attitudes of one shape the attitudes of another.

As a final point, most reds were also falling about laughing to themselves at how wonderful Newcastle fans were for winding Evertonians up. Again no acknowledgement was paid for the fact we had prolonged renditions of exactly the same song from the way end. Again the fact that it annoyed Evertonian's seemed to be a point of hilarity as opposed to solidarity. I am also yet to see any comment from Rafael Benitez to condemn the song which he will have heard. I wonder if we will get any condemnation of him by Liverpool fans? Or is it, when the song is sung to a predominately scouse crowd it's excusable, as they are essentially bitter (or working class, scouser) but when tim and Miles from Surrey have to be on the receiving end, "it's just not cricket old sport"?
 
catcherintherye said:
The songs are out of order mate. We had the same songs sung at us at City by a greater number of fans. There was a report out this week that showed 27% of ids in Manchester living in "acute poverty"-the highest in the country I believe. I remember when I was teaching a few years back and it was pretty grim for kids then, so dread to think how people's lives are now. So yes it's a moronic chant and completely self defeating.

That being said so to are Danny Murphy's comments about Evertonians and scousers being on benefits and doing so fraudulently not the same thing? All backed up by dozens of Kopites on twitter (and shamefully some from Liverpool) laughing along at them and resorting to their usual abusive tone when questioned on it, or merely trotting out the "bitter" hashtag (yes in their head standing up for a city's reputation makes you a bitter, but the Tory mindset has rotted to every fibre of that club, starting with the statue of prominent Tories outside the ground).

If singing songs about scouser needing feeding is out of order, so too is "having a joke" and suggesting Evertonian's are all on benefits and fraudulently claiming benefits is also out of order. Yet from what I can see, most reds think the latter is a great joke and those who get offended are fair game for secondary victimisation online. Without failing to see how the attitudes of one shape the attitudes of another.

As a final point, most reds were also falling about laughing to themselves at how wonderful Newcastle fans were for winding Evertonians up. Again no acknowledgement was paid for the fact we had prolonged renditions of exactly the same song from the way end. Again the fact that it annoyed Evertonian's seemed to be a point of hilarity as opposed to solidarity. I am also yet to see any comment from Rafael Benitez to condemn the song which he will have heard. I wonder if we will get any condemnation of him by Liverpool fans? Or is it, when the song is sung to a predominately scouse crowd it's excusable, as they are essentially bitter (or working class, scouser) but when tim and Miles from Surrey have to be on the receiving end, "it's just not cricket old sport"?
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Superb post mate .

I hate the songs , hated them when they started and I hated them now . I hate people mocking my city in that manner but as you’ve identified perfectly our loveable neighbours have been outraged to the point of speaking to the echo but found previous incidents facing us hilarious .

I’ll happily condemn anyone that crosses a line but the triablism that flourishes across the park prevents that although their outrage to run riot only when it suits .
 
catcherintherye said:
The songs are out of order mate. We had the same songs sung at us at City by a greater number of fans. There was a report out this week that showed 27% of ids in Manchester living in "acute poverty"-the highest in the country I believe. I remember when I was teaching a few years back and it was pretty grim for kids then, so dread to think how people's lives are now. So yes it's a moronic chant and completely self defeating.

That being said so to are Danny Murphy's comments about Evertonians and scousers being on benefits and doing so fraudulently not the same thing? All backed up by dozens of Kopites on twitter (and shamefully some from Liverpool) laughing along at them and resorting to their usual abusive tone when questioned on it, or merely trotting out the "bitter" hashtag (yes in their head standing up for a city's reputation makes you a bitter, but the Tory mindset has rotted to every fibre of that club, starting with the statue of prominent Tories outside the ground).

If singing songs about scouser needing feeding is out of order, so too is "having a joke" and suggesting Evertonian's are all on benefits and fraudulently claiming benefits is also out of order. Yet from what I can see, most reds think the latter is a great joke and those who get offended are fair game for secondary victimisation online. Without failing to see how the attitudes of one shape the attitudes of another.

As a final point, most reds were also falling about laughing to themselves at how wonderful Newcastle fans were for winding Evertonians up. Again no acknowledgement was paid for the fact we had prolonged renditions of exactly the same song from the way end. Again the fact that it annoyed Evertonian's seemed to be a point of hilarity as opposed to solidarity. I am also yet to see any comment from Rafael Benitez to condemn the song which he will have heard. I wonder if we will get any condemnation of him by Liverpool fans? Or is it, when the song is sung to a predominately scouse crowd it's excusable, as they are essentially bitter (or working class, scouser) but when tim and Miles from Surrey have to be on the receiving end, "it's just not cricket old sport"?
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Boom.

Lovely post and spot on.
 
Harryflashman said:
Superb post mate .

I hate the songs , hated them when they started and I hated them now . I hate people mocking my city in that manner but as you’ve identified perfectly our loveable neighbours have been outraged to the point of speaking to the echo but found previous incidents facing us hilarious .

I’ll happily condemn anyone that crosses a line but the triablism that flourishes across the park prevents that although their outrage to run riot only when it suits .
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Vintage RS behaviour. The irony of that would be totally lost on them as they never self examine and have no sense of irony nor appreciation of hypocrisy whatsoever.
 

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