ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

[WA Toffee]

What can they be charged with? The good thing with that is, you know they'll all be supergrasses and not admit to nicking the police hat. I reckon each of them will probably dob in 3 or 4 others. More kopites criminalised.

Just having a look at sentencing, looks at if possession of a class A drug tends to go from a fine to potentially year in prison (though has a maximum 7 years in prison). The fact they're doing it on a stolen coppers hat goes against them, but probably a first time offence. Wouldn't it be hilarious if they all a short jail sentence for it?

I don't think anyone will get charged for that. I'm not a defence lawyer, but I could suggest it was just flour and a dress up police hat and it would be practically impossible to prove otherwise.

 

[Johnniepk]

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[DanB90]

The lads doing the coke off the stolen police hat are doomed mate.

Reckon they will be safe personally.
Firstly, they’ll deny that it was them who stole the hat.
Secondly, there’s no proof that what they’re snorting is actually an illegal substance (thought it blatantly is).

 

[Hickson9]

Any info on them sharing that kids details over the internet too? Any chance of anything happening with that if it were reported in?

I've seen the kid's family have gone to the Police about it. The fella who originally posted has apologised.

 

[catcherintherye]

I don't think anyone will get charged for that. I'm not a defence lawyer, but I could suggest it was just flour and a dress up police hat and it would be practically impossible to prove otherwise.

Probably mate. I imagine the old bill will pull them in though, just out of anger for them taking liberties. Pull them in, scare them a bit, hope they say something stupid. If they no comment it, as you say it will be fine.

 

[Hickson9]

Reckon they will be safe personally.
Firstly, they’ll deny that it was them who stole the hat.
Secondly, there’s no proof that what they’re snorting is actually an illegal substance (thought it blatantly is).

You can see how wired they are.

They don't need toxicology reports like, just to prove beyond reasonable doubt and I think the video does that (it can only be cocaine).

 

[Toast]

Probably mate. I imagine the old bill will pull them in though, just out of anger for them taking liberties. Pull them in, scare them a bit, hope they say something stupid. If they no comment it, as you say it will be fine.

They need to bin their phones.

 

[Kenshin]

Lets get one thing straight right now. Its ok to "grass" on grown flecken men who commit arson causing tens of thousands of pounds worth of damage. Its ok to "grass" on scum who stab people. Its ok to "grass" on vermin who attack emergency services. Its ok to "grass" on the morons who put the safety of the general public at risk by congregating in thousands during pandemic. Its ok to "grass" on filth who behave like primates destroying the reputation of this city and leavening the actual place itself looking like a battle field.

In fact not only is it ok to "grass" on the little sewer rats who to do all those things, It's your responsibility as a grown adult and rational human-being to see that they're held accountable for their actions. These horrible sub-humans will never learn otherwise. I'm sorry (not really) if that doesn't conform to the juvenile way that some view the world and I'm sorry that they where dragged up and therefore understand the difference between "grassing" on say your brother for nicking the last mars bar and committing arson and attempted murder.

Spot on

 

[Hickson9]

What can they be charged with? The good thing with that is, you know they'll all be supergrasses and not admit to nicking the police hat. I reckon each of them will probably dob in 3 or 4 others. More kopites criminalised.

Just having a look at sentencing, looks at if possession of a class A drug tends to go from a fine to potentially year in prison (though has a maximum 7 years in prison). The fact they're doing it on a stolen coppers hat goes against them, but probably a first time offence. Wouldn't it be hilarious if they all a short jail sentence for it?

Presumably possession of a Class A and some kind of anti social behaviour charge. Maybe even outraging public decency, considering they're doing it off a police hat in the middle of a crowd at the Pier Hear and it has also gone viral.

 

[catcherintherye]

I've seen the kid's family have gone to the Police about it. The fella who originally posted has apologised.

An apology won't suffice. I'll throw one question in on this, the bloke in question appears to be about 50. Why has he got pictures of a 17 year old lad on his phone? The big issue will be for him (and all others who re-shared) if the lad in question is younger than 16 at the point that picture was taken and he publicly shared it. There was also another picture of (I think the same lad) looking much younger kicking about being shared as well, and he looked about 12. Was that shared by him as well I wonder?

I mean if the picture is of him 16 and upwards he will probably be ok from a criminal level (but not from a civil aspect). If not, I'm sure the police will be looking at it. I'm glad they're monitoring social media as well, hopefully every one of them that re-shared it get the pull if it's a picture of an under 16 they've shared.

The whole thing seems odd though. Why has he got pictures of kids on his phone anyway?

 

[Nymzee]

An apology won't suffice. I'll throw one question in on this, the bloke in question appears to be about 50. Why has he got pictures of a 17 year old lad on his phone? The big issue will be for him (and all others who re-shared) if the lad in question is younger than 16 at the point that picture was taken and he publicly shared it. There was also another picture of (I think the same lad) looking much younger kicking about being shared as well, and he looked about 12. Was that shared by him as well I wonder?

I mean if the picture is of him 16 and upwards he will probably be ok from a criminal level (but not from a civil aspect). If not, I'm sure the police will be looking at it. I'm glad they're monitoring social media as well, hopefully every one of them that re-shared it get the pull if it's a picture of an under 16 they've shared.

The whole thing seems odd though. Why has he got pictures of kids on his phone anyway?

Did he not say it was his mate? Or the pic came from a lad who was mates with him?

 

[catcherintherye]

Presumably possession of a Class A and some kind of anti social behaviour charge. Maybe even outraging public decency, considering they're doing it off a police hat in the middle of a crowd at the Pier Hear and it has also gone viral.

Most of that isn't very serious mind. I'm sure the old bill will understandably want some revenge on them and will pull them in, but as long as they are bright (which is doubtful) they'll get out ok with a bit of a warning.

I'd anticipate the old bill will mark their cards though. Hopefully their parents tax on their cards, vehicle checks etc are all up to date.

 

[toffee_laura]

Probably mate. I imagine the old bill will pull them in though, just out of anger for them taking liberties. Pull them in, scare them a bit, hope they say something stupid. If they no comment it, as you say it will be fine.

There is no evidence for possession of a controlled drug.
If the Police Officer has reported a hat missing then I would assume they would be interviewed over handling stolen goods as it would be very unlikely to be able to prove who had actually stolen it.
The video is also indicative of S.5 Public Order as I would argue they display disorderly behaviour.
I would also imagine they would be voluntarily interviewed and summonsed as opposed to arrested due to there being no necessity for arrest now.

 

[Hickson9]

I don't think anyone will get charged for that. I'm not a defence lawyer, but I could suggest it was just flour and a dress up police hat and it would be practically impossible to prove otherwise.

"It was just flour your honour. We added the gurning jaws, bouncing around and wide eyes for effect. We brought along a fake police hat because you never know when it'll come in handy in a celebration."

 

[catcherintherye]

Did he not say it was his mate? Or the pic came from a lad who was mates with him?

Right. So why is a guy who looks about 50 mates with a 17 year old kid? And if he knows the kid in question, how did he get him confused with someone who lives in a different part of the country and is 2 years older than him? And you must surely know it wasn't him, if you actually know the kid in question? I mean there's something very fishy about what he did to me.