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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

PaulPowersTash said:
European Royalty...
The team that got all other English teams banned from Europe for 5 years for murdering 39 people at European Cup Final?
The club that was officially named by UEFA to have the worst behaving fans in Europe?
European Royalty my arse!
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Take a wild guess at which teams supporters were playing footie with Belgium plod the week before.
 
PaulPowersTash said:
European Royalty...
The team that got all other English teams banned from Europe for 5 years for murdering 39 people at European Cup Final?
The club that was officially named by UEFA to have the worst behaving fans in Europe?
European Royalty my arse!
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Will be hilarious if City Chelsea PSG go on a spree of winning the champions league most seasons. Will completely invalidate their claims to being european royalty. If City get over their mental block this year with the state of other teams across Europe they could easily pick up a few.
 
Saint Domingo said:
Will be hilarious if City Chelsea PSG go on a spree of winning the champions league most seasons. Will completely invalidate their claims to being european royalty. If City get over their mental block this year with the state of other teams across Europe they could easily pick up a few.
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Hopefully coming back from being 1-0 down against both Dortmund & PSG means we are at last over the mental block. It's took some time but the way we won those games at long last gives me a little bit of confidence. I really don't care who wins it as long as it's not Liverpool and that includes United, as that would make their heads explode as well. They just can't seem to abide anyone else winning something or being successful. It has to be about them and even when they do win something it has to be best ever. The greatest ever PL title or the greatest ever CL win. Really strange bunch. Really strange.
 
PaulPowersTash said:
European Royalty...
The team that got all other English teams banned from Europe for 5 years for murdering 39 people at European Cup Final?
The club that was officially named by UEFA to have the worst behaving fans in Europe?
European Royalty my arse!
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I think you need to head over to RAWK, and look at the Lisbon Lyons thread, and get a dose of reality mate.

Liverpool have never spent a penny in their lives, and mean Manchester City have dirty money, and cheat. How dare you go against the grain.
 

barneygumble said:
I think you need to head over to RAWK, and look at the Lisbon Lyons thread, and get a dose of reality mate.

Liverpool have never spent a penny in their lives, and mean Manchester City have dirty money, and cheat. How dare you go against the grain.
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I know, I know mate...
They have a 344 page thread on us to tell us we are not their rivals and are not relevant :eek:

You boys even get a mention in the Lisbon Lyons thread as well...

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PaulPowersTash said:
I know, I know mate...
They have a 344 page thread on us to tell us we are not their rivals and are not relevant :eek:

You boys even get a mention in the Lisbon Lyons thread as well...

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Seen it mate, I find it hilarious.

How are you cheating by the way? Did you hack Liverpool's scouting database or something.... oh....wait.....
 

catcherintherye said:
I saw their statement, and I try not to slaughter other supporters and their orgs, and I'm sure there are a lot of decent people involved at a rank and file level, but I found their demands a bit odd and a bit random. And for the most part, not random in a positive "transitional demand" sort of random either.

There doesn't seem to be any mention of selling up, or even any mention of 50+1. While you can probably get away with the former, it's hard to take seriously any talk without putting the latter. That really does seem to be the slogan/idea that has gripped all football fans and is one that crosses the divide. The idea that fans can actually run football clubs, like they do in Germany. I don't have any idea why that wasn't part of their requests. Forget everything else, that should be number 1. It's simple, it's practical, it's understandable and it links to the wider protest/struggle.

They seem to have this abstract idea that you can have 2 people on a board and they can veto anything. Not only is this idea unworkable but it will strengthen FSG's hand, as understandably they will say you can't have 2 people having the power to halt a business. What happens if the 2 people disgaree by the way?

The other demand they had was something that has already been conceded by Arsenal's board. I mean they'll try and claim it as a big victory, but this should already be won. If you have 4 demands, don't waste one of them with something that has already essentially been implied.

As a final aside, they already have Kenny Dalglish on the board. What do they think one of their reps is going to do that Dalglish already can't? I'm sure FSG will reference this point.

I sense FSG will call their bluff. Give them a couple of crumbs, concede on point 4 which is a demand that should have already been achieved, and essentially say to them-if you don't like it, you organise to get us out then. SOS are already showing a lot of weakness before they've even gone into battle, refusing to adopt the slogan that they want the owners to leave.

This is akin to Lenin going to the Tsar in 1917 and politely asking him if he could have a workers representative in the Duma. In insurrectionary times, if you behave like that you end up in the dustbins of history.
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FSG will probably fly the idea of 'socios'...which seems to be City's idea of fan engagement and 'influence'. Basically a chance to vote on certain issues if they engage financially with the club. That's the La Liga way of dealing with fan demands for more say in clubs.

FSG will never agree to any model whereby fans have a veto on anything corporate. No chance.

SOS will meet them "half way" on some understanding and use it to build their organisation. They will be used as cover...and willingly so.
 
PaulPowersTash said:
Hopefully coming back from being 1-0 down against both Dortmund & PSG means we are at last over the mental block. It's took some time but the way we won those games at long last gives me a little bit of confidence. I really don't care who wins it as long as it's not Liverpool and that includes United, as that would make their heads explode as well. They just can't seem to abide anyone else winning something or being successful. It has to be about them and even when they do win something it has to be best ever. The greatest ever PL title or the greatest ever CL win. Really strange bunch. Really strange.
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Hey so you'd prefer United to Beat Liverpool in say Champions league Final
 
davek said:
FSG will probably fly the idea of 'socios'...which seems to be City's idea of fan engagement and 'influence'. Basically a chance to vote on certain issues if they engage financially with the club. That's the La Liga way of dealing with fan demands for more say in clubs.

FSG will never agree to any model whereby fans have a veto on anything corporate. No chance.

SOS will meet them "half way" on some understanding and use it to build their organisation. They will be used as cover...and willingly so.
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City already have at least half a dozen fan led initiatives for various issues such as disabled fans, LBTG fans, season ticket holder fans etc etc
you name it, we have a committee somewhere with a fan on it. They are all a complete waste of time. All of them. The club go through
the motions write up and send out the minutes of the meetings to the respective fans representatives and that's the end of that.
Most billionaires are complete and utter control freaks. As you say, there is no chance that they are going to invest billions in a business and then
be told what to do and how to do it. It just doesn't work that way. The fans should concentrate on things like ridiculous kick off times
and sky high ticket prices - that's where they could possibly have some positive influence to change things for the better.
The idea of a fan sitting on the board and having any real say or influence is a nonsensical pipe dream IMHO.
 

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