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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

The Legend of Southall said:
I once read that the higher ups of the Masonic Lodge were Liverpool fans.

I'm not usually one for conspiracy theory's, but that would certainly explain some of the deference.

Assuming of course they're still big players in this country. I could just as easily be barking up the wrong tree
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Bluerover said:
I am repeating myself, but read David Kennedy's history of the Split - his original PhD dissertation or the subsequent book.

Houlding and his cronies were Masonic and Orange. The Everton Board that left them behind did have a small number of masons but nowhere near as many as the RS
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The Legend of Southall said:
There is certainly something there. I'm just unsure of how much influence the Masons have these days.

Either way, without doubt, Liverpool are the establishment club. I just don't know why

Edited to add; I think @Lobster Johnson has just hit the nail on the head on this one. In the end, it always comes down to money
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Blues Harp said:
Your last paragraph is spot on. It was Shankly who started the cult from the moment he became their manager, and created a sense of entitlement amongst their supporters which persists to this day.
He was even disliked by the rs board after he left the club. Pity we opened our curtains to watch him cry arsing at the bottom of our garden and invited him in
"Oh we hate Bill Shankly.......etc etc
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There's deffo something going on. If you look at the Prem-era (30 years now) the serial champions have been Man U then their biggest challengers Arsenal, Chelsea and Man City. That's at least 4 clubs who are more successful than Liverpool.

The favouritism and bias shown towards RS isn't based on them being the best, it's clearly not based on them being the neutral's favourite, and it's naturally not based on the behaviour of their fans. Even football-wise there's always been another club playing more exciting footie (the stop-start, crowdless, pandemic season doesn't really count).

So what is it based on? Can a Shankly-sized personality cult really endure for so long, or might there be more to it as some of the posts above hint at?

It's interesting how a simple thing like The Guardian (founded in Manchester, based in London, love Liverpool) removing a benign top-comment confirms what we all suspected: the media are biased towards Liverpool Football Club, and the reasons why aren't clear.
 
WilliamPerry said:
What about the countless , videos , photos , articles and tweets proving Liverpool fans caused murder in Paris and Liverpool.

seems to me actions have consequences and the behaviour of some affected everyone . That kavah sky interview proves French lads bunked in but their are countless videos of kopites bunking in.

I mean there’s a video of a red saying he had his ticket stolen , there’s a few accounts of reds telling a true story of their day.

when ticketless knob heads cause chaos innocent people will be hurt in the crossfire by the police . It happens .
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The footage and the order of the Madrid end can not be denied.
 

dholliday said:
There's deffo something going on. If you look at the Prem-era (30 years now) the serial champions have been Man U then their biggest challengers Arsenal, Chelsea and Man City. That's at least 4 clubs who are more successful than Liverpool.

The favouritism and bias shown towards RS isn't based on them being the best, it's clearly not based on them being the neutral's favourite, and it's naturally not based on the behaviour of their fans. Even football-wise there's always been another club playing more exciting footie (the stop-start, crowdless, pandemic season doesn't really count).

So what is it based on? Can a Shankly-sized personality cult really endure for so long, or might there be more to it as some of the posts above hint at?

It's interesting how a simple thing like The Guardian (founded in Manchester, based in London, love Liverpool) removing a benign top-comment confirms what we all suspected: the media are biased towards Liverpool Football Club, and the reasons why aren't clear.
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The reasons are clear. They support Liverpool.

They have a big fan base, and the culture at that club is to defend the club at all costs, blame everyone else.

The 2 tied together = media bias, they don’t even hide it.
 
What I blame UEFA for is for still allowing these to play in European competitions - wasn't 1985 enough for these to have permanently forfeited their right to play in European fixtures? Pick literally any other club that competed in this year's CL to play Madrid last night and there'd be no story today: no accusations of heavy-handed police, no tales of ticket forgeries, no videos detailing supposed innocents being tear-gassed, etc.
 

Wayno said:
The reasons are clear. They support Liverpool.

They have a big fan base, and the culture at that club is to defend the club at all costs, blame everyone else.

The 2 tied together = media bias, they don’t even hide it.
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Then the big question is how did so many Liverpool-supporting fans become influential media types?

As percentage-ratio, they're hugely over-represented. How did that happen?
 
spectateur said:
Look, the stade de France has held dozens of big games, football and rugby without any unsavoury incidents. grand slam rugby deciders Cup finals, internationals and so on.
The only disruption was an
attempted terrorist attack
Seems strange that bother should finally break out at a match involving LFC.
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Only on one side the stadium
 

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