ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

[WilliamPerry]

Sky Sports News just had someone on from The Athletic talking about all things RS. At the end they asked him to comment on the death of Lester Piggott and his opening remark was Lester Piggott was the Liverpool of horse racing ?

He was a nasty horrible little beaut anyway so it makes sense

 

[daza_1973]

Sky Sports News just had someone on from The Athletic talking about all things RS. At the end they asked him to comment on the death of Lester Piggott and his opening remark was Lester Piggott was the Liverpool of horse racing

Yeah, cheated the system and ended up in jail....?
If only.

 

[daza_1973]

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If he can remember Rome 77 I reckon he dyes his beard.

 

[Eggs]

….local MP Ian Byrne on Sky News sharing his experience of attending the final with Kay Burley. Total denial of blag tickets and fans jumping turnstiles, saying it’s all fake news from authorities to cover their failings.

The same Ian Byrne MP who sent misogynistic tweets that wives and girlfriends of Evertonians get beaten up after their team gets beaten.

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

That full-back of theirs Robertson said he gave his mate a ticket and the French officials said it was a fake! Something isn’t right here. It’s not simply a case of the London media narrative being correct: “All Scousers are hooligans.”

Or maybe the duplicate/fake had been used already and the system flagged it up?
The good fakes as they said were spot on ?

 

[Loadsofchemistry]

I used to go to Forest more than Everton back in them days as raised there but bought up a blue (thanks grandad!)

There is a great forest dvd called "I believe in miracles" covering that period so if you like football in general from that time take a look at that too.

Robbo wasn't the best player in Europe at the time but he was probably the most effective. They way he used to beat (stumble past) defenders was amazing. Sat next to a fella at Goodison this season (Watford game so we ignored the horror on the pitch) and got chatting and he told me a time when he was giving Robbo some grief from the terrace when he took a throw in front of him but Robbo was taking no sh*te off no one that day and had a proper go back at him

I used to go to Forest more than Everton back in them days as raised there but bought up a blue (thanks grandad!)

There is a great forest dvd called "I believe in miracles" covering that period so if you like football in general from that time take a look at that too.

Robbo wasn't the best player in Europe at the time but he was probably the most effective. They way he used to beat (stumble past) defenders was amazing. Sat next to a fella at Goodison this season (Watford game so we ignored the horror on the pitch) and got chatting and he told me a time when he was giving Robbo some grief from the terrace when he took a throw in front of him but Robbo was taking no sh*te off no one that day and had a proper go back at him lol

I know the Forest team of the 80s,
Hated them. Read stuart pearce autobiography years ago and he said the worst scumbag out of the lot of them was.. wait for it..Alehouse Aldo.

Apparently Forest played that lot in a league game a few weeks before Hillsborough, and Brian Laws made an error leading to lfc scoring a goal, aldo mockingly patted him on the head and the forest players were fuming.

Then after the Hillsborough tragedy, at the replayed game at old trafford Aldo seeks out Laws and apologises for his behaviour, explains how after the last few weeks, attending funerals, seeing familys faces etc, he dosnt want any bad blood. Laws accepts the apology and they go their separate ways to prepare for the game.

During the game Brian Laws scored an OG and guess which pigeon abusing alcoholic ran over and ruffled his head?

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

So those young French lads are now accused of groping young girls as well as pick pocketing.

As an aside ,I'm surprised any football fans would stand back and let this happen .

 

[twoblue]

Fine, but why were there zero problems with Madrid fans turning up with fake or no tickets?

Why was the rs side clearly chaotic inside the stadium with thousands blocking emergency stairwells? Again, Madrid side was orderly and stairwells clearly empty.

Why did rs fans Rob tickets from kids, snatching them out of their hands?

Why did 30 rs who were already coked up invade a row of seats, throwing fellow rs fans out, then proceed to snort up, right behind a Dad with his two young sons. They were bragging about bunking in.

The sons are traumatised and never want to go to a football match again - this was from the Dad himself.

But it is not rs fans to blame.

Is there footage of these.

 

[twoblue]

Sky Sports News just had someone on from The Athletic talking about all things RS. At the end they asked him to comment on the death of Lester Piggott and his opening remark was Lester Piggott was the Liverpool of horse racing ?

Well he was a tax dodger

 

[davids]

Surprise surprise they are hiding behind the cloak of Hillsborough on the BBC this morning, and as usual not a word about Heysel.

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

I know the Forest team of the 80s,
Hated them. Read stuart pearce autobiography years ago and he said the worst scumbag out of the lot of them was.. wait for it..Alehouse Aldo.

Apparently Forest played that lot in a league game a few weeks before Hillsborough, and Brian Laws made an error leading to lfc scoring a goal, aldo mockingly patted him on the head and the forest players were fuming.

Then after the Hillsborough tragedy, at the replayed game at old trafford Aldo seeks out Laws and apologises for his behaviour, explains how after the last few weeks, attending funerals, seeing familys faces etc, he dosnt want any bad blood. Laws accepts the apology and they go their separate ways to prepare for the game.

During the game Brian Laws scored an OG and guess which pigeon abusing alcoholic ran over and ruffled his head?

 

[daza_1973]

Surprise surprise they are hiding behind the cloak of Hillsborough on the BBC this morning, and as usual not a word about Heysel.

I always found it hard to understand how in this day and age the likes of the Russian populous could be hoodwinked by state media about the truths in the Ukraine invasion.
After two days of blanket pro RS propaganda on all media outlets I'm beginning to understand ?
Seems we're not that far from 1984 after all.

 

[PhilM]

Or maybe the duplicate/fake had been used already and the system flagged it up?
The good fakes as they said were spot on ?

It's unlikely they'd be able to duplicate a ticket to the require quality where it fools the system; that's if the system is electronic as you'd expect.

Personally, I think it would be crass to ignore the errors by the French authorities that appear to have helped exacerbate the situation over in Paris.

I saw a video of a young, compliant fan trying to scan his ticket in and getting gassed. He continued to be complaint and showed no hostility.

So I think there's an element of truth in the overreaction and there'll be lots of fans who are justifiably angry at what occurred, and that's fair enough.

But equally, there's evidence out there that suggests that some (emphasis on some) of the issues may have arose because of issues in their own fan base.

There's potential evidence of fans selling and using fake tickets likewise with videos of fans bunking in. You need to look at the number of fans in the aisles.

Compare this with the Madrid end and you have to ask yourself, 'Why didn't all the local fans who chose to cause this not go in the Madrid end?'

This adds some weight to the French argument that people trying to use non-working tickets to some extent clogged up the turnstiles and slowed the system down.

If you're at the front with thousands behind you and your ticket doesn't work, what do they do? Let you in or are you expected to get out of the way?

Again, if there's issue with the ticketing system why did it not impact on the Madrid tickets to the same extent as the Liverpool fans who couldn't get in?

You'd be naive to suggest the police didn't help and there were local youths getting involved, but equally I'd say you're naive if they are the only cause of it.

 

[Penno]

It’s a complete whitewash. The media are absolute cowards, scared of any backlash. If it was any other team than them the narrative would be fans to blame, French police being French police.

 

[BlueShark]

Surprise surprise they are hiding behind the cloak of Hillsborough on the BBC this morning, and as usual not a word about Heysel.

Absolutely boils my p1ss this, a Hillsborough type tragedy was a real possibility thanks to the acts of some of their thuggish supporters and yet as per usual they are being painted as the victims.

No wonder genuine football fans around the world hate them.