ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

[Alan Whittle]

Least we get to see what we always knew about the pinkies now in relation to “dem oil clubs” ruining the game - hypocritical jealous, shower of gobshites.

Can’t wait to see what bollocks Reichsfuhrer Shippmann spouts about human rights records and state ownership of clubs when shiek mo beheading infidels buys them.

Backed himself into a bit of a corner I feel, but the gurning fool will probably find a way to get himself out of it.

Courtesy of his media acolytes.

 

[paultheblue]

But the Sons of Shankly have demanded clarity and insist on participation in any takeover talks. And it looks like they mean business, they've all put their little Tommy Cooper hats on and everything.

Spirit of Shankly really do have an over inflated opinion of their own importance.
John Henry will be glad to see the back of them and all the rest of pond life that follow the club.

 

[daza_1973]

But the Sons of Shankly have demanded clarity and insist on participation in any takeover talks. And it looks like they mean business, they've all put their little Tommy Cooper hats on and everything.

 

[Alan Whittle]

Spirit of Shankly really do have an over inflated opinion of their own importance.
John Henry will be glad to see the back of them and all the rest of pond life that follow the club.

They will insist on being owned by “The Carbon Neutral Holier Than Thou Trillionaires of de Little Baby Jesus”
AM I RIGHT??

 

[Yarrgh]

Spurs are just Everton on steroids, they always bottle it against the top sides or in the latter stage of cup competitions. Once Kane is done they will come back down to our level, enter Newcastle.

And Liverpool are Liverpool on steroids at the moment. They always sell out once it comes to self interest. Once Turkey neck is done they'll have a despotic murderous owner like Newcastle.

I used Google translate to change it from gobshite to English.

 

[paultheblue]

They will insist on being owned by “The Carbon Neutral Holier Than Thou Trillionaires of de Little Baby Jesus”
AM I RIGHT??

I feel another Liverpool fan gofundme page coming on once they have finished paying for Mbappe.

 

[Calvin Aldi]

They are spawny enough to get someone with unlimited money. Just want to see all these Dave Kirby and Tony Evans types do mental gymnastics over the ownership. Then just look out the window dreaming of Shanks and Paisley.

 

[catcherintherye]

Will make a massive profit and use that to fund the new NHL team they have acquired. Which will guarantee a profit year on year while sticking with LFC is a gamble depending on success.

Bought it for 300 million and sell for 4 billion is great success for FSG.

Looks like the owners of AC Milan want to increase its 10% and take full control of LFC

They won't like Redball capital, but it would be good for them. It would be continuity.

 

[catcherintherye]

FSG know how Goebbels has 'achieved' his success, that it's cyclical, that this current bunch are spent and are reluctant to gamble further.
They are a consortium, they answer to investors not big billy badge boy on the kop.
Without their version of a PL or ESL draft model to be controlled they're bailing first.

Yes pretty much. I think they've looked at it and can see they cannot sustain Liverpool trophy winning team. In all honesty, it's probably a sensible ploy. They've maximised revenue effectively, been good in the transfer market etc. They are very smart people.

There are 2 options for Liverpool here from what I can see. Either a quick sale (which would be good for them) and the new owners will be in place for the summer. The other one, is it's the start of a process. This would be less positive, as it can tend to drag on, and an inertia can set in. If I'm honest, I think we are in that phase now, and you can see the impact it has.

Forget about signing players like Bellingham, nobody does that if they are engaging in a sale. Often the interested party will sign terms that give them protections, and one may be that transfer activity is vetoed (again a little bit like Chelsea had during the process to buy their club). Chelsea's went through very quickly for political reasons of course.

The most likely outcome will be another American firm, maybe a fund coming in. For whatever reason, American's seem to like the PL currently, which makes Henry's decision interesting. While the super league is obviously completely unviable from a commercial perspective (and always was) there does seem to be inclinations that other things will change (could easily see a world where no relegation for founder members of the PL come in etc) to give some stability. So within that context for Henry to walk away is interesting.

But then again, it's not. He is quite mechanical about it, and will know tha 2-3bn for Liverpool is massively over value, and he can get a better return elsewhere, without the ned to have to keep funding them.

 

[catcherintherye]

There is no guarantee of a Shiekh buyout either.

Saudi, Qatar and UAE all have clubs doing the sports washing for them presently. China seem reluctant to invest in football anymore and Russian Oligarchs are off the table for obvious reasons.

Outside of a US consortium maybe an Indian/Asian billionaire the most likely.

I think given the publicity of the world cup, and the bad publicity around Newcastle that sort of takeover will not be waved through any longer. It's interesting of the interested parties in Chelsea, none were oil states. If you are an oil state too, in a strange why, why buy Liverpool? You already have 2 in the league, they are massively expensive, and you're not building them up like City/Newcastle. Paying 300m and paying 3bn are completely different. They don't tend to go for established names, they look for under valued assets that are selling cheaply. Liverpool are an established brand that are overvalued.

It's likely they will get either a wealthy individual, or an American owner (possibly with a bit of borrowed capital). I suspect Henry will want to deal with someone he knows. A bit like Manchester United 20 years ago, there is an appeal to a strong brand name, and it allows more capitalist American interests to gain value as shareholders. These were also the names that dominated the Chelsea race. That's just how football seems to be going.

As one final aside, when you see alleged wealth of individuals (or indeed funds) you do have to factor in, the majority of that is not going to be cash. It is going to be stock, often tied up in companies that are at some of their highest valuations in history. Elon Musk is allegedly worth 200bn or whatever, but bought twitter using a mixture of stock from Tesla, loans from the bank and other collateral. He doesn't have a huge amount of cash lying about, as frankly you don't need it, and it's a depreciating asset. Only a very conservative section of investors tend to keep back high cssh reserves, and they generally don't hold any interest in owning football clubs. Especially clubs that sell 40x earnings.

 

[Piijt]

Klopp is under immense pressure to qualify for the CL. Failure to do so would dramatically alter the valuation. They’ll regret not selling at the end of last season.
Should be fun to watch.

 

[twoblue]

Yes pretty much. I think they've looked at it and can see they cannot sustain Liverpool trophy winning team. In all honesty, it's probably a sensible ploy. They've maximised revenue effectively, been good in the transfer market etc. They are very smart people.

There are 2 options for Liverpool here from what I can see. Either a quick sale (which would be good for them) and the new owners will be in place for the summer. The other one, is it's the start of a process. This would be less positive, as it can tend to drag on, and an inertia can set in. If I'm honest, I think we are in that phase now, and you can see the impact it has.

Forget about signing players like Bellingham, nobody does that if they are engaging in a sale. Often the interested party will sign terms that give them protections, and one may be that transfer activity is vetoed (again a little bit like Chelsea had during the process to buy their club). Chelsea's went through very quickly for political reasons of course.

The most likely outcome will be another American firm, maybe a fund coming in. For whatever reason, American's seem to like the PL currently, which makes Henry's decision interesting. While the super league is obviously completely unviable from a commercial perspective (and always was) there does seem to be inclinations that other things will change (could easily see a world where no relegation for founder members of the PL come in etc) to give some stability. So within that context for Henry to walk away is interesting.

But then again, it's not. He is quite mechanical about it, and will know tha 2-3bn for Liverpool is massively over value, and he can get a better return elsewhere, without the ned to have to keep funding them.

The super league was the end goal of these Americans. That was a risk free money tree. No relegations and huge games every week catering to an international market directly on internet tv.

The pyramid system is an outdated model for these Americans - they believed they were the men to change it this gereration.

Business plan is now scuppered. They recognise the fragility of success and how quickly things can change in football.

The pyramid system is what makes football unique. Yes money scuppers competiveness but dream is still alive

 

[Barry75]

I think that'll be it for me if they get bought by an oil state.

Not just because it's them, but it's just a bit too much now in the game.

Qatar World Cup, city, Newcastle putting towels on their heads and laughing about their owner executing people. PSG taking the worlds best talent but some how being awful on the European stage.

Only saving Grace is the day out the match day is but now literally can't justify going.

 

[YoboCopter]

Klopp is under immense pressure to qualify for the CL. Failure to do so would dramatically alter the valuation. They’ll regret not selling at the end of last season.
Should be fun to watch.

Mate hes basically took the club from 300 million to 4 billion

I dont think they will fall out with him, they must absolutly worship him

Theyll easy get top 4 anyway

 

[Wat Tyler]