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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3


Sky banging on about the Bayern lad to the rs...
Is it not tapping up, if that's even still a thing, to discuss with a player before agreeing a deal with the club?
Also it's a bit of a step down from Bellingham no matter how you spin it
 
NathDogg said:
Alright Mooms, we know you don’t believe it, and they may not be.

I just find it fascinating that almost every player that leaves them ends up a burned out, battered, injured shell whereas when at snake mountain, they never miss a match and perform like they are possessed?
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I've said for many years on here and had a few decent chats with members not on here anymore about various PED's and elite sports people.

Further back on Kipper we had someone who worked on Lance Armstrongs team during the Tour De France who kept saying he would get me sued for saying Armstrong was using PED's.

I just think some fans can't see past them being a decent team so they have to make up an excuse for why they are so good.

When Ferguson was manager of United and they kept winning trophies the likes of RAWK couldn't admit that United are a very good team and that's why they won games. No it was because Ferguson was corrupt and had control of the FA and Refs would fix games for them to win. It was surreal to say the least.
 

NathDogg said:
Alright Mooms, we know you don’t believe it, and they may not be.

I just find it fascinating that almost every player that leaves them ends up a burned out, battered, injured shell whereas when at snake mountain, they never miss a match and perform like they are possessed?
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Also possible that they force them to play every game, rush them back early and when not 100% fit....

Sure that Owen blamed them rushing him back as a kid for making him injury prone and losing his pace....
Torres was never the same after a similar injury
 
f.t.r.s said:
Also possible that they force them to play every game, rush them back early and when not 100% fit....

Sure that Owen blamed them rushing him back as a kid for making him injury prone and losing his pace....
Torres was never the same after a similar injury
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Maybe that’s the reason. I just find it staggering the consistently and number of times it happens, and didn’t the same thing happen with the Dortmund players when Shippmann was there?
 
Moomin said:
I've said for many years on here and had a few decent chats with members not on here anymore about various PED's and elite sports people.

Further back on Kipper we had someone who worked on Lance Armstrongs team during the Tour De France who kept saying he would get me sued for saying Armstrong was using PED's.

I just think some fans can't see past them being a decent team so they have to make up an excuse for why they are so good.

When Ferguson was manager of United and they kept winning trophies the likes of RAWK couldn't admit that United are a very good team and that's why they won games. No it was because Ferguson was corrupt and had control of the FA and Refs would fix games for them to win. It was surreal to say the least.
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I agree with all that and as much as it pains me to say it I think their manager is exceptionally good at motivating players as well as being a top manager .

The bit that genuinely puzzles me is the fall out from almost everyone that leaves , I’ve never seen anything like it anywhere really . So it’s easy to fit that to a narrative where you see a picture of one of their players carrying a large inhaler.
 

Harryflashman said:
I agree with all that and as much as it pains me to say it I think their manager is exceptionally good at motivating players as well as being a top manager .

The bit that genuinely puzzles me is the fall out from almost everyone that leaves , I’ve never seen anything like it anywhere really . So it’s easy to fit that to a narrative where you see a picture of one of their players carrying a large inhaler.
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Even if a player moves on, he will be able to take the inhaler with him.

A lot of data is used to back up performance levels , maybe they know the right time to move players on and sell them.

AC Milan started the trend into this over 20 years ago with the Milanlab and they could predict potential injuries when doing a medical and would walk away from signings.
 
Del-boy said:
Gonna get beat tonight aren’t they, this shower.
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Normally I’d be dancing a jig if the get beat, but we are in favours territory - Nice one Everton and our team of lion hearts.

Wouldn’t surprise me if they get beat, as which Liverpool will show up - to go from whipping Man Utd 7-0 to getting beat by Bournemouth takes some doing.

They play a number of the teams around us so are going to have a huge say in it, which makes me hate this everton squad more.
 
Moomin said:
Even if a player moves on, he will be able to take the inhaler with him.

A lot of data is used to back up performance levels , maybe they know the right time to move players on and sell them.

AC Milan started the trend into this over 20 years ago with the Milanlab and they could predict potential injuries when doing a medical and would walk away from signings.
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Yeah maybe they do even when they offer player’s extensions and the players turns it down and leaves .

I not dismissing the work the manager does not suggesting running faster or longer makes you better at football nor being honest am I completely sure they’re at it but it’s deffo weird .
 
NathDogg said:
Normally I’d be dancing a jig if the get beat, but we are in favours territory - Nice one Everton and our team of lion hearts.

Wouldn’t surprise me if they get beat, as which Liverpool will show up - to go from whipping Man Utd 7-0 to getting beat by Bournemouth takes some doing.

They play a number of the teams around us so are going to have a huge say in it, which makes me hate this everton squad more.
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Some of those lads in that team are bitter enough to prefer to see us down than them put up an unlikely top 4 push now. The likes of Henderson, Robertson, Van Dijk, wouldn’t hesitate a second to turn in an absolute stinker if it meant we went down. They’d be heroes for it and their fans would love it. We’d only have ourselves to blame at all but i wouldn’t put it past any of them. Even Klopp was going on about Everton after they’d just won their 6th European cup, he’d absolutely revel in sending us down.
 

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