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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

The club should ban them,anything to put them in a bad light and they will print it
That rag is merely The Liverpool FC Echo... puppets totally of the RS. As such, its a handy tool for them to instantly turn on the damage limitation RS Blame-Thrower round Stanley Park inevitably taking us in the backdraft. More fool other more respectable media concerns falling for this utter garbage regarding a supposed leak. It wouldn't take a Rhodes Scholar to fathom that any u-turn would definitely not have been turned had their furlough farce remain covert....which it could never have been. The fact remains that FGS hadnt given it one iota of thought that it was utterly immoral to have tax payers funding their ancillary staff...until it was er...pointed out to them. To swim in the same shallow fetid water as Ashley & Co has got to be another new low for them.

PS....Is it totally our fault, yet ??
 
Yes I mean it strikes me as an organisation that can't acknowledge they have done wrong.

Forget what their fans say, this will have been driven by corporate pressure. They have enormous sponsorships, and even a 10% hit on those would render the money they get from the government irrelevant. They just need the story to go away, as it flies in the face of the very effective marketing campaign they have done. Trying to insinuate sabotage is quite dangerous thing to do and keeps the issue alive. The old fashioned "we messed up, we've learnt from it, look at the good we do" position is much better.

Interesting though, that FSG have also stated that the money will have to be made up in other ways. What hits me from this, is that the big numbers they are posting tell rather an illusionary story about the general health of the club. I have said for some time, with the spiralling costs and essentially blowing out manchester City in a spending (on wages) arms race leads them very exposed if anything were to happen. It's speculation, but I do wonder if they moved onto the furlough scheme so early, as cashflow is already presenting a problem?

The other factor is, at no point are FSG saying they will make good the salaries. They are not going to step in to save them. If they are not going to step in to save them at a couple of million a year, what happens if big sponsorships start to be lost, or downgraded? You do wonder what the "other ways" to pay this money will be (and I would suggest they will try to sell an asset). I also wonder if their portfolio in America is going to come under real pressure given how the virus is affecting the US stock exchange and with the erratic USA president governing it. Most sports investments and worth ar paper money at the best of times, and they could quite quickly find themselves in trouble.

Given Mane is soon to turn 28, as is Salah, Firmino will be 29, and the head of Germany football has said he expects the transfer market to "collapse". It will not be a good summer to have to rely on sale(s) to have to help cover big wage commitment you have made.

In truth, I think FSG may try to play the long game with this, but if they are hit hard, that may not be an option. I have mentioned Leeds united and I know people go "oh they'll be bought out". Well I can assure you, nobody is throwing money into football in it's current phase. I'd also say, they will have ensured they worded the contracts in a way to ensure they get their money back first. They will not allow Liverpool to escape the impending bankrupcy by shifting it onto them as they did H & G if it comes to that point.

So yes, there's a lot to run in this story.

Excellent post.
Hopefully their hand will be forced one way or another.
 

Excellent post.
Hopefully their hand will be forced one way or another.

I don't think people realise how strong Leeds look circa 2002. Massive spenders, CL semi finalists, title challenges. Within 12 months they were in the start of a death spiral.

The Leeds scenario for them is at the extreme end. I don't think they get there. They could easily end up where they were at with H & G though. American owners, potentially in negative equity with their broad holdings, sourcing the main part of liquidity outside the US to keep their portfolio alive. Unlike H & G more legal protection, more savvy and ultimately far less people wanting to invest in football meaning that that same sort of austerity doesn't go on for 1 or 2 years but 5+ years.

Ultimately it was the last financial crash that facilitated Liverpool going from Big spenders, with a massive ground on Stanley Park, to Roy Hodgson and administration (while sitting in the bottom 3). Had FSG not emerged then, they'd have got relegated over the next 18 months.

This is a similar risk for Arsenal and United in different ways too. Liverpool though have a huge wage cost to pay, players on massive contracts on the assumption their nerds will make them money on those players. If values collapse, and nobody can pay their wages, never mind the stupid fees they want, there is a huge pinch point.

I have warned about this for some time as well. In truth the way they were going, the pinch point didn't need to be anywhere near as severe as this to cause problems. They were gambling massively with the wage bill they had, and the incentivised sponsorships. Thats about to go pop.
 
I don't think people realise how strong Leeds look circa 2002. Massive spenders, CL semi finalists, title challenges. Within 12 months they were in the start of a death spiral.

The Leeds scenario for them is at the extreme end. I don't think they get there. They could easily end up where they were at with H & G though. American owners, potentially in negative equity with their broad holdings, sourcing the main part of liquidity outside the US to keep their portfolio alive. Unlike H & G more legal protection, more savvy and ultimately far less people wanting to invest in football meaning that that same sort of austerity doesn't go on for 1 or 2 years but 5+ years.

Ultimately it was the last financial crash that facilitated Liverpool going from Big spenders, with a massive ground on Stanley Park, to Roy Hodgson and administration (while sitting in the bottom 3). Had FSG not emerged then, they'd have got relegated over the next 18 months.

This is a similar risk for Arsenal and United in different ways too. Liverpool though have a huge wage cost to pay, players on massive contracts on the assumption their nerds will make them money on those players. If values collapse, and nobody can pay their wages, never mind the stupid fees they want, there is a huge pinch point.

I have warned about this for some time as well. In truth the way they were going, the pinch point didn't need to be anywhere near as severe as this to cause problems. They were gambling massively with the wage bill they had, and the incentivised sponsorships. Thats about to go pop.

A perfect fate for that club, which is nothing more than the biggest pimple on football's face.
 
Null and void is the only logical decision the people on charge can make. I say that not because Liverpool are on the verge of winning the league either.
Think about it, any other scenario apart from null and void would open up so many avenues of legal challenge. Null and void due to a global pandemic shuts down any avenue of legal challenge. Could you envisage any team trying to sue the FA in the sure knowledge that any claim will be kicked into touch at the very first opportunity as it’s an act of God of which nobody can be held responsible.
 
The club should ban them,anything to put them in a bad light and they will print it
We should of banned them years ago. They've done nothing but undermine and disrespect the club for decades now. Scum comic book that masquerades as a newspaper. The damage it's done to the reputation of this city is unbelievable. Absolute scum rag, Its the local equivalent of the S*N! :mad:
 

Null and void is the only logical decision the people on charge can make. I say that not because Liverpool are on the verge of winning the league either.
Think about it, any other scenario apart from null and void would open up so many avenues of legal challenge. Null and void due to a global pandemic shuts down any avenue of legal challenge. Could you envisage any team trying to sue the FA in the sure knowledge that any claim will be kicked into touch at the very first opportunity as it’s an act of God of which nobody can be held responsible.

You'd think that would be glaringly obvious to anyone with two neurons to rub together. But then again, consider where the opposition is coming from.
 

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