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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"
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Donald Twain
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Liverpool's problems? Delusions of grandeur, transfer duds and failure to fix clear flaws in the squad
Those who want Brendan Rodgers out are deluding themselves if they think it will change anything under the current set-up, writes Chris Bascombe
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Down and out: Liverpool crashed out of the Champions League last night, but the problems do not just lie at Brendan Rodgers' door
By Chris Bascombe
9:36AM GMT 10 Dec 2014
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Liverpool shoved their way back into Europe’s VIP tent as if it was their entitlement last August. Last night they were sheepishly collecting their coat and being escorted from the premises, ending the most shambolic and embarrassing series of European Cup performances in the club’s history.
It was during the Champions League draw they prematurely reclaimed their status as European royalty, chief executive Ian Ayre’s crass suggestion ‘this is our competition’ succeeding only in making the Merseyside club sound like they’d wasted no time guzzling Uefa champagne.
Liverpool never look or sound more insecure than when they start telling everyone how marvellous they are; there is nothing more small-time in football than confirmation of your own sense of greatness'.
Liverpool went into the game with Basel with a goalkeeper who doesn't know whether to kick the ball or exorcise it; centre-halves who you expect to be bullied by AFC Wimbledon next month; midfielders whose goals and assist record must be evident to the statistical wizards who are so revered by John W. Henry; and a 32-year-old striker who ran out of gas 72 hours before kick-off.
Liverpool appear to have lost the memo that makes it clear football is about players. You can offer countless speeches about strategy and appoint a manager with a philosophy that would make Plato blush, but if you buy pap you end up with last night.
That is why those who want Brendan Rodgers out as a result of Liverpool’s performances this season are deluding themselves if they think it will change anything under the current set-up.
Fenway Sports Group would interview another series of idealistic managers delivered fresh from the Uefa pro-licence course, each one no doubt adept at arranging training sessions and communicating his ideas. He’d still be at the mercy of the quality of Liverpool’s recruitment.
Dud: Mario Balotelli has been Liverpool's most high-profile transfer failure this season
The Anfield transfer committee – or more specifically how they operate - is a familiar gripe on these pages and it is not used to absolve Rodgers, merely to point out he is partially rather than wholly responsible.
The Anfield committee was formed with good intentions; too many Liverpool deals since the 90s were filtered through the same agents; players often seemed to be preferred because of who they were represented by rather than whether they were good enough; managers assumed far too much power, made too many mistakes and spent too much time moaning about lack of resources when they’d been given plenty'.
This bloke wont be invited to the post season mid table celebrations.
Those who want Brendan Rodgers out are deluding themselves if they think it will change anything under the current set-up, writes Chris Bascombe
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Down and out: Liverpool crashed out of the Champions League last night, but the problems do not just lie at Brendan Rodgers' door
By Chris Bascombe
9:36AM GMT 10 Dec 2014
Liverpool shoved their way back into Europe’s VIP tent as if it was their entitlement last August. Last night they were sheepishly collecting their coat and being escorted from the premises, ending the most shambolic and embarrassing series of European Cup performances in the club’s history.
It was during the Champions League draw they prematurely reclaimed their status as European royalty, chief executive Ian Ayre’s crass suggestion ‘this is our competition’ succeeding only in making the Merseyside club sound like they’d wasted no time guzzling Uefa champagne.
Liverpool never look or sound more insecure than when they start telling everyone how marvellous they are; there is nothing more small-time in football than confirmation of your own sense of greatness'.
Liverpool went into the game with Basel with a goalkeeper who doesn't know whether to kick the ball or exorcise it; centre-halves who you expect to be bullied by AFC Wimbledon next month; midfielders whose goals and assist record must be evident to the statistical wizards who are so revered by John W. Henry; and a 32-year-old striker who ran out of gas 72 hours before kick-off.
Liverpool appear to have lost the memo that makes it clear football is about players. You can offer countless speeches about strategy and appoint a manager with a philosophy that would make Plato blush, but if you buy pap you end up with last night.
That is why those who want Brendan Rodgers out as a result of Liverpool’s performances this season are deluding themselves if they think it will change anything under the current set-up.
Fenway Sports Group would interview another series of idealistic managers delivered fresh from the Uefa pro-licence course, each one no doubt adept at arranging training sessions and communicating his ideas. He’d still be at the mercy of the quality of Liverpool’s recruitment.
Dud: Mario Balotelli has been Liverpool's most high-profile transfer failure this season
The Anfield transfer committee – or more specifically how they operate - is a familiar gripe on these pages and it is not used to absolve Rodgers, merely to point out he is partially rather than wholly responsible.
The Anfield committee was formed with good intentions; too many Liverpool deals since the 90s were filtered through the same agents; players often seemed to be preferred because of who they were represented by rather than whether they were good enough; managers assumed far too much power, made too many mistakes and spent too much time moaning about lack of resources when they’d been given plenty'.
This bloke wont be invited to the post season mid table celebrations.
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Bascombe is one of Gerrard's best mates.
roydo
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Really? Has his blessing then?
Donald Twain
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He wouldn't have dared write that when he was at the Echo.Liverpool's problems? Delusions of grandeur, transfer duds and failure to fix clear flaws in the squad
Those who want Brendan Rodgers out are deluding themselves if they think it will change anything under the current set-up, writes Chris Bascombe
27
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1
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Down and out: Liverpool crashed out of the Champions League last night, but the problems do not just lie at Brendan Rodgers' door
By Chris Bascombe
9:36AM GMT 10 Dec 2014
17 Comments
Liverpool shoved their way back into Europe’s VIP tent as if it was their entitlement last August. Last night they were sheepishly collecting their coat and being escorted from the premises, ending the most shambolic and embarrassing series of European Cup performances in the club’s history.
It was during the Champions League draw they prematurely reclaimed their status as European royalty, chief executive Ian Ayre’s crass suggestion ‘this is our competition’ succeeding only in making the Merseyside club sound like they’d wasted no time guzzling Uefa champagne.
Liverpool never look or sound more insecure than when they start telling everyone how marvellous they are; there is nothing more small-time in football than confirmation of your own sense of greatness'.
Liverpool went into the game with Basel with a goalkeeper who doesn't know whether to kick the ball or exorcise it; centre-halves who you expect to be bullied by AFC Wimbledon next month; midfielders whose goals and assist record must be evident to the statistical wizards who are so revered by John W. Henry; and a 32-year-old striker who ran out of gas 72 hours before kick-off.
Liverpool appear to have lost the memo that makes it clear football is about players. You can offer countless speeches about strategy and appoint a manager with a philosophy that would make Plato blush, but if you buy pap you end up with last night.
That is why those who want Brendan Rodgers out as a result of Liverpool’s performances this season are deluding themselves if they think it will change anything under the current set-up.
Fenway Sports Group would interview another series of idealistic managers delivered fresh from the Uefa pro-licence course, each one no doubt adept at arranging training sessions and communicating his ideas. He’d still be at the mercy of the quality of Liverpool’s recruitment.
Dud: Mario Balotelli has been Liverpool's most high-profile transfer failure this season
The Anfield transfer committee – or more specifically how they operate - is a familiar gripe on these pages and it is not used to absolve Rodgers, merely to point out he is partially rather than wholly responsible.
The Anfield committee was formed with good intentions; too many Liverpool deals since the 90s were filtered through the same agents; players often seemed to be preferred because of who they were represented by rather than whether they were good enough; managers assumed far too much power, made too many mistakes and spent too much time moaning about lack of resources when they’d been given plenty'.
This bloke wont be invited to the post season mid table celebrations.
Tommy Chong
Player Valuation: £60m
Delusions of grandeur? Sums that lot up completely...
davidloach
Player Valuation: £10m
Liverpool's problems? Delusions of grandeur, transfer duds and failure to fix clear flaws in the squad
Those who want Brendan Rodgers out are deluding themselves if they think it will change anything under the current set-up, writes Chris Bascombe
27
113
0
1
141
Down and out: Liverpool crashed out of the Champions League last night, but the problems do not just lie at Brendan Rodgers' door
By Chris Bascombe
9:36AM GMT 10 Dec 2014
17 Comments
Liverpool shoved their way back into Europe’s VIP tent as if it was their entitlement last August. Last night they were sheepishly collecting their coat and being escorted from the premises, ending the most shambolic and embarrassing series of European Cup performances in the club’s history.
It was during the Champions League draw they prematurely reclaimed their status as European royalty, chief executive Ian Ayre’s crass suggestion ‘this is our competition’ succeeding only in making the Merseyside club sound like they’d wasted no time guzzling Uefa champagne.
Liverpool never look or sound more insecure than when they start telling everyone how marvellous they are; there is nothing more small-time in football than confirmation of your own sense of greatness'.
Liverpool went into the game with Basel with a goalkeeper who doesn't know whether to kick the ball or exorcise it; centre-halves who you expect to be bullied by AFC Wimbledon next month; midfielders whose goals and assist record must be evident to the statistical wizards who are so revered by John W. Henry; and a 32-year-old striker who ran out of gas 72 hours before kick-off.
Liverpool appear to have lost the memo that makes it clear football is about players. You can offer countless speeches about strategy and appoint a manager with a philosophy that would make Plato blush, but if you buy pap you end up with last night.
That is why those who want Brendan Rodgers out as a result of Liverpool’s performances this season are deluding themselves if they think it will change anything under the current set-up.
Fenway Sports Group would interview another series of idealistic managers delivered fresh from the Uefa pro-licence course, each one no doubt adept at arranging training sessions and communicating his ideas. He’d still be at the mercy of the quality of Liverpool’s recruitment.
Dud: Mario Balotelli has been Liverpool's most high-profile transfer failure this season
The Anfield transfer committee – or more specifically how they operate - is a familiar gripe on these pages and it is not used to absolve Rodgers, merely to point out he is partially rather than wholly responsible.
The Anfield committee was formed with good intentions; too many Liverpool deals since the 90s were filtered through the same agents; players often seemed to be preferred because of who they were represented by rather than whether they were good enough; managers assumed far too much power, made too many mistakes and spent too much time moaning about lack of resources when they’d been given plenty'.
This bloke wont be invited to the post season mid table celebrations.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
larrygobfiend
Player Valuation: £40m
I wanted them to get through and get knocked out in the next round.
It's Liverpool FFS... we've seen it all before. They'll finish about ninth in the Prem, but qualify for the Champions League by spawning a Europa League win. They'll probably knock us out on the way, just for good measure.
Ew.
It's Liverpool FFS... we've seen it all before. They'll finish about ninth in the Prem, but qualify for the Champions League by spawning a Europa League win. They'll probably knock us out on the way, just for good measure.
Ew.
Ashtonian
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Remember lads, we don't need the country to not notice whats going on at liverpool, only them lot.
Our season is our season and afte rlast year i cdont really care how they do, but i hope like others, that they plod along and rodgers does just enough to stay in a job long enough to see out next summer and completely ruin the liverpool squad.
Our season is our season and afte rlast year i cdont really care how they do, but i hope like others, that they plod along and rodgers does just enough to stay in a job long enough to see out next summer and completely ruin the liverpool squad.
The Cowboy
Player Valuation: £60m
Yes, agreed. Whilst there is some pleasure to be taken from seeing them crash out at this stage, they now enter a competition with a markedly reduced standard, one in which they can definitely spawn their way to the final. As runners-up in their group they would have faced some incredibly tough CL group winner, and likely have exited Europe completed.
But then there's always that fear isn't there?
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