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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

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Says everything about the media agenda that the Ref from the Chelsea game is all over the media for costing Chelsea....and the media have totally ignored how Southampton were screwed yesterday against Liverpool....Liverpool were gifted that game yesterday, which will have huge significance of who finishes 4th....

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For some reason Koeman didn't make a big deal over it. I don't know why.

Liverpool's luck will run out.
 
Not just a Sterling time bomb - ironically he's the one with the longest to run.

In the summer they have Toure, Gerrard, Johnson, Flanagan and Manquillo all able to leave on a free. Other than that they have Skrtl, Jones, Enrique, Henderson and Lambert with just one more year.

Then there's the fact that the likes of Borini, Allen and Sahko are on long term deals with no likely buyers.

They know that if the buckle to Sterling's demands they will have to enhance everybody else's contract and they simply haven't got the funds to do that. Even with the new deal.

They've been a selling club for well over a decade, I dont know why they don't just accept it.















































































































































































For some reason Koeman didn't make a big deal over it. I don't know why.

Liverpool's luck will run out.

Problem is all managers complain, its the media's favouritism that decides what's gets reported....Koeman will know he's wasting his time complaining too much, whereas the likes of Rodgers and mourinho will know any injustice against will be highlighted hugely and not likely be repeated....

Had Liverpool lost yesterday after having 2 or 3 peno appeals turned down, and the Southampton keeper not sent off for handball outside the box, their would be mass hysteria in the media today (and all week long)...
 
Had Liverpool lost yesterday after having 2 or 3 peno appeals turned down, and the Southampton keeper not sent off for handball outside the box, their would be mass hysteria in the media today (and all week long)...

two words - howard webb.

i can't even remember the incident, but i'm sure when i saw it after the whole kafuffle i didn't even think he got it wrong. but they still talk about it today. you never see clattenburg's absymal corrupt performance ever get brought up by the media.
 

Not just a Sterling time bomb - ironically he's the one with the longest to run.

In the summer they have Toure, Gerrard, Johnson, Flanagan and Manquillo all able to leave on a free. Other than that they have Skrtl, Jones, Enrique, Henderson and Lambert with just one more year.

Then there's the fact that the likes of Borini, Allen and Sahko are on long term deals with no likely buyers.

They know that if the buckle to Sterling's demands they will have to enhance everybody else's contract and they simply haven't got the funds to do that. Even with the new deal.

They've been a selling club for well over a decade, I dont know why they don't just accept it.

I think this is a very poignant post. While their campaign against Hicks and Gillette had some very progressive aspects to it, it was very broad and encompassed lots of different groups.

When you look at their performance, what H & G didn't really get what the need to win "the hearts and minds" (this is something Kenwright is very good at). They weren't that bad owners, they gave Liverpool lots of money. At the same time they were very dismissive of the club and didn't go to games etc. I can understand anger at that.

The contradiction for Liverpool fans is, are they angry because of a lack of respect to the club/lack of interest, or a lack of money. The current lot talk the talk, but will not fund them as they want to be.

In the end I think being "nice guys" will only get them so far. Sooner or later they will have to put up or shut up. I don't see these yanks giving them anymore money. If you look sat what happened to Villa (who were at a similar level to what Liverpool are currently) and then see what happened when Lerner stopped throwing money at it you can see the problems they face. Their recruitment strategy has been awful for years. As people have pointed out 300 million spent. As the tap starts to get turned off this will exacerbate the problem.

Of course this is offset all the while they can sell a big asset every so often. It's partly why they are looking to sell Stirling behind closed doors to the highest bidder, as they did with Suarez. The problem is, none of the top cubs want Stirling, if they did he'd have already gone. The only way I could see them taking him, is as Real Madrid take say a Hernandez on a cheap deal as backup. They will not pay top dollar for him.

What is most ironic is hearing Liverpool fans whining about the media trying to sell their top players for 40 million. The exact opposite is true, Liverpool sources are using the media to desperately try to offload decent players for top money in order to subsidise spending.

The Stirling situation is becoming quite pivotal for them though. And with the build up of players they have the likes of "Hendo" are going to want top money too.
 
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I think this is a very poignant post. While their campaign against Hicks and Gillette had some very progressive aspects to it, it was very broad and encompassed lots of different groups.

When you look at their performance, what H & G didn't really get what the need to win "the hearts and minds" (this is something Kenwright is very good at). They weren't that bad owners, they gave Liverpool lots of money. At the same time they were very dismissive of the club and didn't go to games etc. I can understand anger at that.

The contradiction for Liverpool fans is, are they angry because of a lack of respect to the club/lack of interest, or a lack of money. The current lot talk the talk, but will not fund them as they want to be.

In the end I think being "nice guys" will only get them so far. Sooner or later they will have to put up or shut up. I don't see these yanks giving them anymore money. If you look sat what happened to Villa (who were at a similar level to what Liverpool are currently) and then see what happened when Lerner stopped throwing money at it you can see the problems they face. Their recruitment strategy has been awful for years. As people have pointed out 300 million spent. As the tap starts to get turned off this will exacerbate the problem.

Of course this is offset all the while they can sell a big asset every so often. It's partly why they are looking to sell Stirling behind closed doors to the highest bidder, as they did with Suarez. The problem is, none of the top cubs want Stirling, if they did he'd have already gone. The only way I could see them taking him, is as Real Madrid take say a Hernandez on a cheap deal as backup. They will not pay top dollar for him.

What is most ironic is hearing Liverpool fans whining about the media trying to sell their top players for 40 million. The exact opposite is true, Liverpool sources are using the media to desperately try to offload decent players for top money in order to subsidise spending.

The Stirling situation is becoming quite pivotal for them though. And with the build up of players they have the likes of "Hendo" are going to want top money too.

They can argue all they want, Sterling is just not, and will never be world class. He scores very few goals, and apart from searing pace has very little else about his game. For all we've got on Ross's back this season and he has dipped alarmingly look at his highlights reel - the full length goal against Newcastle, the one against Norwich, the goal v City, even the one v QPR. Sterling has nothing to come close to these moments. Him and Henderson are the definition of overrated overhyped English players as they showed at the world cup when they were miserably exposed. Yet Liverpool will still probably try and give them over 100k a week each, baffling.
 
They can argue all they want, Sterling is just not, and will never be world class. He scores very few goals, and apart from searing pace has very little else about his game. For all we've got on Ross's back this season and he has dipped alarmingly look at his highlights reel - the full length goal against Newcastle, the one against Norwich, the goal v City, even the one v QPR. Sterling has nothing to come close to these moments. Him and Henderson are the definition of overrated overhyped English players as they showed at the world cup when they were miserably exposed. Yet Liverpool will still probably try and give them over 100k a week each, baffling.

Spot on really mate. Sterling is basically a striker now and he scores less than 10 goals a season. He is the Danny Cadamateri of his generation. If you watched him at the world cup, it's clear that most countries had a better player than him.

Henderson is a standard box to box midfield player. He's a slightly inferior version of McCarthy who has a better footballing brain. To them they are the new Gerrard and Suarez. Either way the kopites lose, having to pay them huge wages or increasingly losing them for a small fee.
 
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I'd love them to give Sterling megabucks. He's dreadful but nobody has noticed yet. It'd be like offering SWP or Lennon £200,000 a week.
I disagree with the "dreadful" part. He's only 20 and looks pretty good for a 20 year old. If they do end up giving him £100k+ though, he seems like the kind of lad to let it all go to his head and turn into yet another modern football tosser. If I was them I'd get rid ASAP. He's certainly not as vital to them as Suarez was and the likes of Sturridge and Coutinho are.

I'm Jason by the way and this is my first post on here. If I'm doing it wrong let me know.
 
I disagree with the "dreadful" part. He's only 20 and looks pretty good for a 20 year old. If they do end up giving him £100k+ though, he seems like the kind of lad to let it all go to his head and turn into yet another modern football tosser. If I was them I'd get rid ASAP. He's certainly not as vital to them as Suarez was and the likes of Sturridge and Coutinho are.

I'm Jason by the way and this is my first post on here. If I'm doing it wrong let me know.
But the Wesh Xavi reckons they don't miss the Rat.
 
Given that Ibe and Sterling are a cockney and a Jamaican cockney bought at 16 and 15 respectively. When Gerrard goes will that be the first time in forever they've been without a youth/scouse first teamer in forever?

Flanagan is still there isnt he?
 

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