ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"
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catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I would not disagree with you.
Lets's hope the buggers walk out more often and the results suffer accordingly.
The fact is the protesters got away with it on Saturday.
Which is why they picked that particular game....in their arrogance it was deemed a comfortable victory and they would be well in front at that stage and the walk out would be a good exercise in attention seeking.
They didn't pick the United game nir would they do it in the derby.
And they wouldn't have done it on Saturday either if Sunderland had scored their first goal in the 75th minute.
They are trying to turn it into a propaganda victory by linking the walk out to their chucking two points away.
In actual fact it was the incompetence of their goalkeeper and the all round naffness of Sakho which undone them.
And that could still have happened even if they had all stayed in their seats
Never have I seen fans gloat so much at the thoughts of their own team dropping points and taking delight in claiming it was their walk out which caused it.
They are truly a bizarre lot and no mistake.
In fairness to them they picked the first game. What I do disagree on in the new narrative they have given themselves, that they were responsible for the defeat. They weren't. They were barely scraping past a poor Sunderland team, but had a rather undeserved two goal lead. Their goalkeeper then had a cock up which he's done all season and then yard dog of a centre half Sakho got completely outclassed by an overhill the hill premier league bench warmer Defoe.
They can never present that honest analysis as frankly it would require a degree of honesty. It would require them to accept Sakho is not world class, he is not even premier league class. Fans staying in the ground or leaving isn't going to change that.
Overall though I have enormous support for what they did though. It takes an awful lot of bottle to walk out of the stadium and it sounds like it was mainly local lads leaving. I have a lot of admiration for those lads. The ones who need to be seriously questioned are the scabs and rats who stayed behind and are criticising them. They will benefit from the campaign with lower ticket prices but not willing to do anything about it.
I do laugh at the idea they were standing up for us though. Our collective solidarity has already meant that ticket prices have never reached their levels. Likewise our own fan pressure ensured we chased out an owner and got left with a local Evertonian in charge. The narrative that they are "saving us from future price rises" when their pre rise prices are already well beyond what we would pay, or that we as a club have the only board who advocate a 30 quid ticket price for away fans is wildly amusing. Their campaign is great, but they are only approaching the level of solidarity we have had for years before.
A few jokers on RAWK going on about it being easier for us due to lack of demand. I think someone needs to pipe them down with a few facts. Namely they only average about 10% higher than us (essentially an irrespective figure when looking at demand). Likewise for none obstructed seats we sell out the same proportion as them. Finally we have prove in our history we can sell as many as 80k tickets. That's a true demand for tickets, not 44,000.
Whistlin' Dixie
Player Valuation: £50m
Pre-Taylor recommendations (i.e. before all-seater stadia) only two clubs averaged 50k for a season.
Us & united. The
Darth Vader
Player Valuation: £25m
TBF they have history of this
They saved English clubs thousands of pounds on European game tickets in the 80s
Nice one
They saved English clubs thousands of pounds on European game tickets in the 80s
Nice one
silent bob
What a guy.
They`ve kept Jewson busy with paving flags as well.
I think it is a bit much referring to people who pay good money to watch a football match and stay to the end as "scabs and rats".
It is a free choice......and I can state categorically if such a stunt was ever attempted at Goodison yours truly will not be joining in.
On the general subject, at the end of the day people do have a choice.
You pay the price of the ticket as set by the club or you do not.
Lots of people I know can no longer afford to go to Goodison.....Anfiekd as well.....and Goodison must be the cheapest ticket price of any major club.
The way they are trying to turn this into some kind of humanitarian crusade is nauseating.
They, more than any other set of fans, seem to think their club belongs to them. It doesn't.
We belong to our clubs.....not the other way round.
I am almost expecting Bob Geldorf to organise Kop Aid to help them out.
Their ST are non-transferable - I know a guy who's in the process of having his taken off him for allowing 3rd party use.
RS have set a limit on ST for a long time in order to have more full price ticket sales as you mention, and also accounts for the 5million year wait for a ST.
Efcgarv
Player Valuation: £100k
Couple of my RS mates don't go the games now, they sell on their ST at the start of the season so they are making money on the fact that they have their name registered with a ST. Not sure if the club can do anything about that anyway. "can't afford," "can't make it, now" are excuses I get from them. Still they are selling on their tickets.
The club knows it can squeeze their 'fans' who own tickets purely to sell them on, as they'll just transfer the rise to those buying off them.
It's those fans who genuinelly own a ticket for their own pleasure who will lose out.
Further Harm
Player Valuation: £500k
I totally agree with you even down to your 'scabs' point.I think it is a bit much referring to people who pay good money to watch a football match and stay to the end as "scabs and rats".
It is a free choice......and I can state categorically if such a stunt was ever attempted at Goodison yours truly will not be joining in.
On the general subject, at the end of the day people do have a choice.
You pay the price of the ticket as set by the club or you do not.
Lots of people I know can no longer afford to go to Goodison.....Anfiekd as well.....and Goodison must be the cheapest ticket price of any major club.
The way they are trying to turn this into some kind of humanitarian crusade is nauseating.
They, more than any other set of fans, seem to think their club belongs to them. It doesn't.
We belong to our clubs.....not the other way round.
I am almost expecting Bob Geldorf to organise Kop Aid to help them out.
None of us know whether or not the fans leaving affected the players. I suspect it didn't, but only the players themselves know for sure. It is now being accepted as 'the truth' in some quarters that it did. The goalkeeping and weak defending that led up to Sunderland's two goals was entirely consistent with how they have been all season. But that is was a result of the fans who walked out is now being accepted as 'the truth' in some red quarters
I fully expect poems about it on RAWK by the end of the week and book(s) to be out about it by the end of the year.
Totally off the tickets topic.
How on earth have they got Henderson, Coutinho, Sturridge and Klopp now as emoticon options on Skype?
How on earth have they got Henderson, Coutinho, Sturridge and Klopp now as emoticon options on Skype?
And bizarrely, they are actually congratulating themselves for, in their minds, costing their team two precious points.
Further Harm
Player Valuation: £500k
I've beaten RAWK to the punch and come up with a poem about it:And bizarrely, they are actually congratulating themselves for, in their minds, costing their team two precious points.
LFC fans are rightly pleased
Because of what they did
They walked out the stadium a bit early
Cos some tickets will be 77 quid
Their 'power' cost their team two points you see
So the fans are absolutely fine
That their team now sits proudly
In league position number nine
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